Market Discussions

Wonder if that was before or after they found out the distortion effect of drone poo?

I find it hard to believe that the under 5% of the population that lives in w-space could impact the market in any major way when compared to what drone poo was doing to the market.

bit ealie to scream WH nerf isnt it? I mean something been up for suggested in a CSM isnt even remoterly close to a done deal.(its lituarlly 100 of suggestetions beening suggested in there) Its even been like a year since it was up for suggestion and they didnt do anything about it.

Even if they where to impliment the nerf(which I doubt they are) they would wait out several mothns + to see how the drone nerf works out on the market before going any futher.

So good luck waiting for a 1-2 years (what my experince tells me are the fastest timeframe your looking at if they accually do it). But then again speculation is sometimes a bigger factor than accually market changes. VOV

Not only that-but only a Skiff mines Mercoxit effectively-getting a 300% bonus to Mercoxit crystals at level V. I have seen maybe 1 or 2 skiffs in the last few years living in 0.0

Back when Morphite was only mined-before drone drops were ever in the game-T2 production levels were much lower than they are now. T2 production has increased several fold and drone drops make up 80% or more of the current supply. Of all the mineral price spikes-only Morphite will go up and stay up in value IMO. There may be some spikes and dips, but in the long run, Morphite could easily go to, and stay at 20K ISK/PU and up. I think that when current supplies run out, and speculators have sold their hordes, you will see baseline prices that go up week after week to 20K+ and may even see spikes of up to 50K and more.


Production will not be able to meet demand even if all the Mercoxit in the game is mined every day I think. With vastly increased demand since 2006 and almost all commonly utilized supplies (drone drops) soon to be removed from game, I think that Mercoxit will be by far, the most valuable ore to mine, but we will see. D3

Your numbers are reasonably correct, but they represent constant, uninterrupted mining. I've never done Mercoxit mining myself and would welcome input from anyone more informed on the subject, but it's my understanding that finding concentrated Mercoxit ore supplies in practically unlimited numbers is quite rare which will inevitably bring down those numbers a great deal.

While I do find the ~30k high end estimates ludicrous, something in the neighborhood of 15-20k (corresponding to 60-85M/hr on paper) seems plausible given the scarcity of supply. It doesn't seem like people will just be able to multibox a bunch of Skiffs 24/7 pulling in those numbers, so for Mercoxit to be worth paying attention to at all, the nominal isk/hr will have to be considerably higher than that obtained from clearing ABC-heavy industrial upgrade belts, which you can scale up as much as you want.

Counterpoint: Mining anomalies are a thing now, they will be used now, and stripping it dry to force it to respawn will include stripping out the mercoxit.

-Hemmo read about the zydrine bubble some time ago
-Hemmo felt genius and thought he should copy the exact same thing 3 weeks later and create a morphite bubble
-Hemmo failed at giving convincingly reasons why morphite should become that rare

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morphite passed ze 18k now. what was that about a zydrine bubble? I say we pass the 20 with ease this weekend, then drop back down due to firesale panic (which I am very thankful for) and then the only way is Up! what a beautiful day...

tbh in rl i am a genius, skipped 4 classed, got 2 degrees allready & only 1 yr to go before im master in business mangament, economics and marketing. I un fortualy belong to the top 1% of ppl that is simply smarter.. not that it is something that i wish to other ppl, its more a pain than a gain.

anyhow, ppl were allready buying up so lets call it a strategic move to prevent hugh stocks to be hamstered. therefor i love all the ppl that scream that it isnt going up more while ppl at sametime saying it is. this prevents ppl from taking the risk or gamble. result is lesser hamstered & sooner i can sell my stuff when prices are more stable by supply & demand.

next lesson isnt free

well not everyone it native english speaking. only fools think that in a internetz spazeship game. imaging ccp only assuming everyone speaks icelandic...than we would all be speaking some strange viking langish or even better... not playing eve at all

Blah blah blah, I don't know a damn thing about mining, but I like seeing myself post because I have convinced enough morons to vote me into CSM and that icon looks cool... << shoves CSM down proverbial flight of stairs for being an idiot >>

Bottom line, getting into a skiff is not that hard if you can already use an exhumer, what like 4 days to fit T2 Mercoxit Crystal and Deep Core mIning, 70 mil to buy and fit one. None of this is a bottleneck. Had you actually had a clue, you'd be giving credit to CCP for increasing the Mercoxit available in the XL grav site from 15K to 45K, this is where all the morphite will come from. So the real bottleneck will be Alliances (eh hem get a real one) and getting thier sov acts together getting systems upgraded to get access to the grav sties. Alliances will have to stop treating miners like the red headed step children.

Merc will definitely go above 25K per unit and stay there for sometime, if you're not a moron, you're going to be looking at the industry levels on the CCP maps to track how long price support will stay in the 25-30K range, I would speculate you'll see that range for 6-9 months because (a) people getting back to mining; (b) a lot of sov changed hands and much needs to be upgraded by the new owner alliances; (c) alliances need to change their attitudes about indutrial corps being in their space. Basically you have an alliance problem not a mining problem.

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Java...

Because mining is what the cool kids do...