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Are miners about to become worth their weight in gold?
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Masikari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-14 00:17:28 UTC
Looking through the forums and trade-hub prices it's no lie that things are getting ridiculously expensive!

Even tho I have enjoyed ganking the odd miner, I'm starting to hope that this breed of player begin mining their little socks off to help the market with minerals. Also, getting rid of drone-poo will make minerals even rarer. And we have Hulkageddon to go yet.

I'm curious to know if the gank-bears are starting to maybe feel a glimmer of concern? Or if anyone is for that matter?

I'm kinda glad to be a WH dweller at this moment in time. The Drake is almost as expensive as the Raven was not too long ago!

Thoughts? Flames? Trolls? Go!
T' Elk
Strategically Bad
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-04-14 00:18:27 UTC
No.

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently
Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-04-14 00:25:26 UTC
Miner clone = 200 kg

1 kg = 35.2739619 ounces

200 kg = 7,054.79 ounces

1 ounce of gold = $1,657.38

7,054.79 ounces of gold = $11,692,467.85

I doubt it
Masikari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-14 00:30:54 UTC
Elzon1 wrote:
Miner clone = 200 kg


Shocked Dat's one heavy sonovvabee-atch!!
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
#5 - 2012-04-14 00:39:18 UTC
Masikari wrote:
Elzon1 wrote:
Miner clone = 200 kg


Shocked Dat's one heavy sonovvabee-atch!!



Not much moving around as the asteroid doesn't speed tank... yet.

Tends to add on the extra carbon to increase said worth.
T-B0NE
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-04-14 00:41:04 UTC
It's a great time to be a pirate. Pirate

“Death and destruction are necessary to the health of the world, and therefore as natural, and lovable, as birth and life. Only priests and born cowards moan and weep over dying. Brave men face it with approving nonchalance." - Ragnar Redbeard
Masikari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-14 00:47:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Masikari
T-B0NE wrote:
It's a great time to be a pirate. Pirate


Hmmmm... more expensive ships = MOAR tears when they get blown up. Why didn't I look at it that way? Think I will get back into my Thrasher Twisted

Edit for the narrow minded: just because there is a Thrasher involved it does not mean all I blow up is mining ships Roll
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-04-14 01:19:29 UTC
Masikari wrote:

Hmmmm... more expensive ships = MOAR tears when they get blown up. Why didn't I look at it that way? Think I will get back into my Thrasher Twisted

First step to admiting you have a problem. You are risk adverse, you fly in highsec which CONCORD is unbiasedly guarding you just as much as the hulk and Mack pilots (until you strike).

Good for you. Nothing like saying you won't risk something expensive, it just has to hit the wallet with the least amount of loss. Its ok the other guy is probably going to lose a Mack or Hulk, so long as its not you. Lets not forget "Don't fly what you cannot afford to lose" and "Poorly Designed ships" go great with "Destroyers got a buff, but mining vessels don't need them".
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-04-14 01:59:58 UTC
Aqriue wrote:
Masikari wrote:

Hmmmm... more expensive ships = MOAR tears when they get blown up. Why didn't I look at it that way? Think I will get back into my Thrasher Twisted

First step to admiting you have a problem. You are risk adverse, you fly in highsec which CONCORD is unbiasedly guarding you just as much as the hulk and Mack pilots (until you strike).

Good for you. Nothing like saying you won't risk something expensive, it just has to hit the wallet with the least amount of loss. Its ok the other guy is probably going to lose a Mack or Hulk, so long as its not you. Lets not forget "Don't fly what you cannot afford to lose" and "Poorly Designed ships" go great with "Destroyers got a buff, but mining vessels don't need them".


I have to agree. Gankers are the ironically the biggest risk averse carebears in EVE

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
T-B0NE
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-04-14 02:13:07 UTC
EVE Stig wrote:
I have to agree. Gankers are the ironically the biggest risk averse carebears in EVE

Gankin no fun if you know you're probably gonna end up being the one that gets ganked, after all what do predators fear, bigger predators. Ugh

“Death and destruction are necessary to the health of the world, and therefore as natural, and lovable, as birth and life. Only priests and born cowards moan and weep over dying. Brave men face it with approving nonchalance." - Ragnar Redbeard
Marcus Ichiro
IchiCorp
#11 - 2012-04-14 02:17:11 UTC
Masikari wrote:
T-B0NE wrote:
It's a great time to be a pirate. Pirate


Hmmmm... more expensive ships = MOAR tears when they get blown up. Why didn't I look at it that way? Think I will get back into my Thrasher Twisted


Not really.

More expensive ships means that mining is more profitable yet hulk/mack ganking is more expensive.

Killing all the worthless botters is good and all, but remember you're only making the ones that aren't stupid enough to get ganked even richer.
namron 7
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-04-14 02:21:29 UTC
i intend to have a dozen hulk pilots and sit outside caldari 4-4 and demand loudy in local that kernite belts need to be permanently in Jita.


That should work?

Thanks for the help
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-14 02:23:28 UTC  |  Edited by: EVE Stig
T-B0NE wrote:
EVE Stig wrote:
I have to agree. Gankers are the ironically the biggest risk averse carebears in EVE

Gankin no fun if you know you're probably gonna end up being the one that gets ganked, after all what do predators fear, bigger predators. Ugh


they seem to fear ccp actually making their profession hard more than anything for all their cries of how leet they are youd think theyd WANT it harder

arent they usually the first to scream HTFU?

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#14 - 2012-04-14 02:30:57 UTC
Elzon1 wrote:
Miner clone = 200 kg

1 kg = 35.2739619 ounces

200 kg = 7,054.79 ounces

1 ounce of gold = $1,657.38

7,054.79 ounces of gold = $11,692,467.85

I doubt it

Problem with your math. An ounce of gold does not weigh an ounce.



Anyway, prices will likely drop significantly post Inferno changes, when people dump their hoarded minerals.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-04-14 02:32:26 UTC
Actually welcome to real world economics.

I have serious suspicions that this is not a supply versus demand Issue but rather market manipulation.

OMG there going to nerf A prices jump at just the news.
No changes have come into effect yet but the market explodes.

EVE is no longer a supply versus demand economy but rather it has turned into what the RL economy really is which is speculation economics.

EVERYBODY KNOWS
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#16 - 2012-04-14 02:33:50 UTC
People can't have fun in a game unless they hold some kind of kill other players event. Even if they have to sink down to the sad level of shooting something that can't defend itself.

You'd think shooting fish in a barrel would get boring after a while. But no! 5 hulkageddons now. The people who gank industrial/mining ships are the ones who don't care about how much it takes to build a ship. But will probably scream the loudest when their favourite ship becomes more expensive.

I sorta think industrial people will really like the fact that ships are more expensive now. If the people who build the ships are the same ones who mine the minerals, they'll love this. As long as they aren't losing too much when/if they get ganked. Should be good.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#17 - 2012-04-14 02:36:33 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
Actually welcome to real world economics.

I have serious suspicions that this is not a supply versus demand Issue but rather market manipulation.

OMG there going to nerf A prices jump at just the news.
No changes have come into effect yet but the market explodes.

EVE is no longer a supply versus demand economy but rather it has turned into what the RL economy really is which is speculation economics.


Half correct.

It still is supply and demand ()with a mix of trying to make a profit sprinkled in). Its just that demand has increased due to speculation.
Malamber
Venomous Cloud
#18 - 2012-04-14 02:38:21 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:

Problem with your math. An ounce of gold does not weigh an ounce..

Curious how much you think an ounce of gold actually weighs...
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#19 - 2012-04-14 02:41:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
Malamber wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:

Problem with your math. An ounce of gold does not weigh an ounce..

Curious how much you think an ounce of gold actually weighs...

About 1.09 ounces.


Let me clarify...
An ounce of gold (for purposes of financial value) is almost always (if not always) measured in troy ounces, which are not identical to the commonly used ounce.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#20 - 2012-04-14 02:41:57 UTC
Malamber wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:

Problem with your math. An ounce of gold does not weigh an ounce..

Curious how much you think an ounce of gold actually weighs...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_ounce

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
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