Warfare & Tactics

The subject title may seem in error I mean how can you categorize all the pvpers in eve into one of three types ?

Let me explain this is just my personal experience and opinion.

Type one.
Numbers game, these are the people who use EFT, who calculate variables, who fit there ships according to stats, spreadsheets and percentages, who will not undock for a fleet without intel and calculated chance of success.

Type two.
Instinctive, these are the people who build, fly, fc on feelings, who will take out a roam because it feels right who will pick a certain gate or engage an enemy based on a feeling and there ships are flown because the pilot instinctively believes in the build.

Type three.
A bit of both.

Myself I follow more the type two, with a little bit of type one, yes I will look at EFT but usually I fit a ship the way it feels right, I fly the ships that feel right to me and when I take people out on a roam I trust my instincts, many times I will bounce my people of a planet or take them to a safe even a detour because a certain area or gate gives me pause for thought, more often than not I am right and we avoid an incoming blob or are able to attack a gate camp from behind.

There is a fourth type, who cant figure out what is pvp and how to pvp, thats me :D

Your trichotomy is incomplete; you assume that maximum efficiency is a goal for all pvpers and the only difference is based on how that efficiency is achieved.

However, many pvpers artificially limit themselves to certain strategies and tactics because they enjoy those strategies and tactics - this is a game, after all.

I, for example, fly heavily tanked ships with no gtfo or dps. I don't pretend that this is somehow a superiour way to fly, I simply enjoy fights that take longer because, well, that's the part of Eve I actually like.

I'm Number One, apart from Instead of the Calculations it's simply "Can I take those ships in a ship smaller than those".

Answer is generally yes, and if not I can always bail.
I'm a solo pvper who'll fight against le odds, but I'm pretty terribad.

4) for me also, I end up browsing websites in windows whilst peeps killing me ingame :/

I think the categories are more based on Eve "balls". Will you fight anything and everything? Do you hesitate? Do you avoid all PVP unless you are guaranteed a victory?

Yes, Sometimes, Definately Not.

But yeah, the types of PvPers are far more granular than the 3 you posted.

I think anyone that calls risk takers losers is the type of person that makes PVP in this game a blobfest and boring.

More of a type two. I feel comfortable flying without scouts and without intel, that is when I´m solo. When fleeting I dont care much about if the FC has scouts everywhere or if he is shottgunning belts on instincts, I never FC myself.

I have a rather cheap ship standard though so I´ve never lost a great % of my isk with one ship going boom.

I poke around in EFT every now and then and I look around KBs for fitting ideas, but I generaly fit most of my ships straight up in game, going by experience.

Also please add type 5: the type that comes home wasted from the local watering hole just to realise insurance is about to run out on a ship, slap all kind of gear you have in the hangar onto it and produce a lolmail somewhere in lowsec.

Mara nice blog. After reading the blog and the comments from those who ran its just another reason why ccp shouldn't have npcs in plexes.

The minmatar npcs do quite a bit of damage with their painters and missiles. Its not like other factions where they are easilly speed tanked. Unfortunately when you fight for the amarr and you want to actually run plexes effieciently (and not have to warp out) your best bet is to pve fit.

You should chalk up those lost fights as being due to CCP screwing plexes up with the npcs. If plexes didn't have rats then they would have been able to do them with good pvp fits and you would have had some more fights.


At least that is something to think about.