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Nice shadow nerf to highsec ganking CCP o7o7o7o7o7o7
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Zverofaust
Ascetic Virtues
#1 - 2012-04-13 18:21:07 UTC
So apparently yesterday's patch introduced a secret shadow feature change, as CONCORD police will now insta-jam the moment they show up on grid.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-04-13 18:21:50 UTC
CCP also is nerfing nullsec pvp by getting rid of hellcats, alpha fleets, etc.

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JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#3 - 2012-04-13 18:22:39 UTC
Zverofaust wrote:
So apparently yesterday's patch introduced a secret shadow feature change, as CONCORD police will now insta-jam the moment they show up on grid.


I've read posts where dev's TALKED about doing that but was not aware they had actually decided to do so. :/
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2012-04-13 18:23:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
If you actually mean “jam” (as in ECM) and not “scram” (as in warp jamming), then bug-report it.
Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-04-13 18:24:04 UTC
Zverofaust wrote:
So apparently yesterday's patch introduced a secret shadow feature change, as CONCORD police will now insta-jam the moment they show up on grid.


About time this change was made. Suicide ganking as a profession is too risk-free for the ganker and harmful to the target.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#6 - 2012-04-13 18:24:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Zverofaust wrote:
So apparently yesterday's patch introduced a secret shadow feature change, as CONCORD police will now insta-jam the moment they show up on grid.

That was announced... unless you mean ECM.

First hint: http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4972&tid=1

Patch Notes for Crucible 1.6 wrote:
Miscellaneous
* Pilots with a Global Criminal Countdown in high security space will be prevented from warping (if they are in any ship other than a capsule). This is to prevent a tactic declared to be an exploit recently.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2012-04-13 18:25:06 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
About time this change was made. Suicide ganking as a profession is too risk-free for the ganker and harmful to the target.
This doesn't change the risk for suicide gankers in any way, you know…
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-04-13 18:26:10 UTC
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#9 - 2012-04-13 18:30:05 UTC
Was removed because pilots would warp point to point to point and nail people even on the same grid.

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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#10 - 2012-04-13 18:31:22 UTC
It wasn't a shadow nerf, you are just ******* clueless.

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Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-04-13 18:33:10 UTC
CCP is letting goons know that the space police are ready. HTFU goons, htfu...

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Zverofaust
Ascetic Virtues
#12 - 2012-04-13 18:34:28 UTC
People, I said Jam, not scram, not damp, not whatever else. Jamming means literally only one thing. They instantly ECM jam you the moment they appear on grid.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-04-13 18:37:13 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
It wasn't a shadow nerf, you are just ******* clueless.

Not empty quoting.

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Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-04-13 18:38:42 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
Zverofaust wrote:
So apparently yesterday's patch introduced a secret shadow feature change, as CONCORD police will now insta-jam the moment they show up on grid.


About time this change was made. Suicide ganking as a profession is too risk-free for the ganker and harmful to the target.


So the certainty of losing your ship once you aggress is not a risk? What is wrong with you people?
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-04-13 18:39:43 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:
Aranakas wrote:
Zverofaust wrote:
So apparently yesterday's patch introduced a secret shadow feature change, as CONCORD police will now insta-jam the moment they show up on grid.


About time this change was made. Suicide ganking as a profession is too risk-free for the ganker and harmful to the target.


So the certainty of losing your ship once you aggress is not a risk? What is wrong with you people?


He means real risk, like tanking low level belt NPCs and mining roids that can't defend themselves. Duh.

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Tobiaz
Spacerats
#16 - 2012-04-13 19:36:46 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Aranakas wrote:
Zverofaust wrote:
So apparently yesterday's patch introduced a secret shadow feature change, as CONCORD police will now insta-jam the moment they show up on grid.


About time this change was made. Suicide ganking as a profession is too risk-free for the ganker and harmful to the target.


So the certainty of losing your ship once you aggress is not a risk? What is wrong with you people?


He means real risk, like tanking low level belt NPCs and mining roids that can't defend themselves. Duh.


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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2012-04-13 19:46:29 UTC
Zverofaust wrote:
People, I said Jam, not scram, not damp, not whatever else. Jamming means literally only one thing. They instantly ECM jam you the moment they appear on grid.

Then you should bug report it, because that's not what's supposed to happen. You're still meant to have the entire n second period to kill your target — you just not meant to be able to boomerang your way to escape.

Most likely, they forgot that the scram ships also jam, and will have to remove that functionality from them.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-04-13 20:02:25 UTC
Sweet...go CONCORD!

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Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-04-13 20:10:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Cedo Nulli
Aruken Marr wrote:
Aranakas wrote:
Zverofaust wrote:
So apparently yesterday's patch introduced a secret shadow feature change, as CONCORD police will now insta-jam the moment they show up on grid.


About time this change was made. Suicide ganking as a profession is too risk-free for the ganker and harmful to the target.


So the certainty of losing your ship once you aggress is not a risk? What is wrong with you people?



When something will happen 100% certainty ... its not a risk. The risk is 0 ... less then carebearing or mining.

Suicide ganking is the most risk-free activity in the whole game.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#20 - 2012-04-13 20:18:36 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:


So the certainty of losing your ship once you aggress is not a risk? What is wrong with you people?


Losing your ship is a business cost when you're a suicide ganker, you undock with the sole intent of ruining someone's day and in the full knowledge that you are going to lose your ship, that is not a risk.

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