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Bad Bobby
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#21 - 2012-04-12 10:21:14 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Guys you don't really get it (only BB comes close).

This is the first time you can RMT in EvE with CCP's OK.

You can turn PLEX in a real good that you can resell at will.

The possibilities of this "bad deal" are endless.

This is the first step towards mainstream professional EVE playing.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#22 - 2012-04-12 10:25:04 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Guys you don't really get it (only BB comes close).

This is the first time you can RMT in EvE with CCP's OK.

You can turn PLEX in a real good that you can resell at will.

The possibilities of this "bad deal" are endless.

This is the first step towards mainstream professional EVE playing.


Exactly. 2 dreams came true for me:

1) Being able to play in RL markets in the same way I do in EvE.

2) Soon(tm) being able to sell in RL markets my stuff I make in EvE.

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Bad Bobby
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#23 - 2012-04-12 10:33:40 UTC
CCP already had me as a guaranteed subscriber until either the EVE servers or my brain gets switched off. But if they follow this route then I'll be "playing" a whole lot more and "working" a whole lot less.
Itis Zhellin
#24 - 2012-04-12 10:45:14 UTC
Im new to the game, but I saw evefest and the moment when nvidia announced this offer. So I fail to understand how come players who are in the game for a long time did not knew about the offer and only now everybody is rushing to buy plex. You guys had plenty of time to gather the 20 plex, why the rush now?

Anyway, the price for those cards is ridiculous. 20 plex is about 400 euros while you can buy the same card for about 150-200 euros in real life. These are the most expensive nvidia cards ever sold on a market. But I respect the clever marketing, well done.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#25 - 2012-04-12 10:51:41 UTC
Itis Zhellin wrote:
Im new to the game, but I saw evefest and the moment when nvidia announced this offer. So I fail to understand how come players who are in the game for a long time did not knew about the offer and only now everybody is rushing to buy plex. You guys had plenty of time to gather the 20 plex, why the rush now?

Anyway, the price for those cards is ridiculous. 20 plex is about 400 euros while you can buy the same card for about 150-200 euros in real life. These are the most expensive nvidia cards ever sold on a market. But I respect the clever marketing, well done.


1) Even knowing about it in advance does not help since CCP decides when to enable the offer.

2) They are doing exactly like any RMT sweatshop do. They sell the RMT money for FAR worse value than the equivalent in PLEX (because of different reasons though: the sweatshops discount because of the end user risk of being banned, CCP to not short circuit their own offers).

BUT, and here is the BUT.

To date there was NO WAY for a legit player to export ISK into money.
Plenty of players who don't know what to do with their billions or trillions, they'd be more than glad to be "fooled" with those atrocious offers so they can convert their equivalent $10k in ISK into REAL $5k.

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Bad Bobby
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#26 - 2012-04-12 11:22:40 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Plenty of players who don't know what to do with their billions or trillions, they'd be more than glad to be "fooled" with those atrocious offers so they can convert their equivalent $10k in ISK into REAL $5k.

Exactly.

It's the same as when Wired claimed that T4U earned me £42,000. There is no way I could have converted the isk into £42,000. Even if I had chosen to break the EULA, which is an option that I wouldn't even consider, I would not have got £42,000.

Now I have twice as much isk as I had back then, but I still can't exchange it for £84,000. If CCP offered me £20,000 for it today, I'd take that offer without a second thought. The question is, how low a price would I accept?
Itis Zhellin
#27 - 2012-04-12 12:00:46 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Itis Zhellin wrote:
Im new to the game, but I saw evefest and the moment when nvidia announced this offer. So I fail to understand how come players who are in the game for a long time did not knew about the offer and only now everybody is rushing to buy plex. You guys had plenty of time to gather the 20 plex, why the rush now?

Anyway, the price for those cards is ridiculous. 20 plex is about 400 euros while you can buy the same card for about 150-200 euros in real life. These are the most expensive nvidia cards ever sold on a market. But I respect the clever marketing, well done.


1) Even knowing about it in advance does not help since CCP decides when to enable the offer.

...

So? You buy the 20 plex and wait till the offer goes live.

I though EVE market is more clever than any other random mmo market where you can create panic and make people to buy crap way to easy. But I suppose the human nature stay the same even in virtual space.

I agree that this was a good deal for those who already have tons of isk and nothing on to spend it. And also a clever marketing deal for nvidia and ccp. Now everybody talk about how come EVE players can buy stuff with pixels. I love this game.
Aurel Svenson
Cyclone Solutions
#28 - 2012-04-12 12:13:29 UTC
10 billion ISK for a video card... Unless you're phenomenally good at EVE or phenomenally bad at real life (or in a particularly poor third world country), this does not lead to playing EVE for money.
cluster 1
VooDoo Party
#29 - 2012-04-12 12:15:28 UTC
1. Sell nerfed useless SC and toon
2. Get new GFX cards
3. Cancell subscription
4.Profit
enterprisePSI
#30 - 2012-04-12 13:23:13 UTC
1 plex = 19.95 euro , 20 plex = 399 euro, for a 199 euro card . Nope :)

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Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#31 - 2012-04-12 13:32:00 UTC
which is why you would be an idiot to buy plex (with RL monies) in order to get the card . Now explain why you would be an idiot to dump spacebux on a card and leave those 199 euro (or whatever) for doing something else?

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Aurel Svenson
Cyclone Solutions
#32 - 2012-04-12 13:33:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Aurel Svenson
Lauren Hellfury wrote:
which is why you would be an idiot to buy plex (with RL monies) in order to get the card . Now explain why you would be an idiot to dump spacebux on a card and leave those 199 euro (or whatever) for doing something else?


Because you spent a year of mining to get the ISK! (If something more profitable, less time - but still, large time commitment.)
Bad Bobby
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#33 - 2012-04-12 13:34:19 UTC
enterprisePSI wrote:
1 plex = 19.95 euro , 20 plex = 399 euro, for a 199 euro card . Nope :)

PLEX can be bought for 19.95 Euro (or whatever) but they cannot be sold for that. Even if you breached the EULA you couldn't sell them for that. This is the only way you can sell PLEX for RL cash without breaking the EULA.

The card costs me 10b, which is a few hours of isk making. I'd take that offer since it would take about the same amount of time to earn the RL currency to buy it, but it wouldn't be as fun.
Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#34 - 2012-04-12 13:40:24 UTC
Aurel Svenson wrote:
Lauren Hellfury wrote:
which is why you would be an idiot to buy plex (with RL monies) in order to get the card . Now explain why you would be an idiot to dump spacebux on a card and leave those 199 euro (or whatever) for doing something else?


Because you spent a year of mining to get the ISK! (If something more profitable, less time - but still, large time commitment.)


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Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-04-12 13:41:25 UTC
Aurel Svenson wrote:
Lauren Hellfury wrote:
which is why you would be an idiot to buy plex (with RL monies) in order to get the card . Now explain why you would be an idiot to dump spacebux on a card and leave those 199 euro (or whatever) for doing something else?


Because you spent a year of mining to get the ISK! (If something more profitable, less time - but still, large time commitment.)


I made 1bil isk in the past 2 weeks and I'm not even in the "super rich" for Eve. I have a few friends who periodically make over 1bil in one day of Incursions when on a roll. When you start getting to the high end, 10bil is pocket change.
Aurel Svenson
Cyclone Solutions
#36 - 2012-04-12 14:46:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Aurel Svenson
Barakach wrote:
Aurel Svenson wrote:
Lauren Hellfury wrote:
which is why you would be an idiot to buy plex (with RL monies) in order to get the card . Now explain why you would be an idiot to dump spacebux on a card and leave those 199 euro (or whatever) for doing something else?


Because you spent a year of mining to get the ISK! (If something more profitable, less time - but still, large time commitment.)


I made 1bil isk in the past 2 weeks and I'm not even in the "super rich" for Eve. I have a few friends who periodically make over 1bil in one day of Incursions when on a roll. When you start getting to the high end, 10bil is pocket change.


So... 10 days for 200 Euros is good for you? 20 weeks?
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#37 - 2012-04-12 15:26:50 UTC
Itis Zhellin wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

1) Even knowing about it in advance does not help since CCP decides when to enable the offer.

...

So? You buy the 20 plex and wait till the offer goes live.

I though EVE market is more clever than any other random mmo market where you can create panic and make people to buy crap way to easy. But I suppose the human nature stay the same even in virtual space.


Real PLEX players buy PLEX in July for the whole next year, so yes they had it.
Real Fanfest listeners bought PLEX the second it was known, hence the previous spike we had weeks ago.

Those who buy it today are the "last minute idiot" and the "last minute idiot hunters" and the "last minute idiot hunters-who-get-hunted".



Aurel Svenson wrote:

So... 10 days for 200 Euros is good for you? 20 weeks?


Anybody who would buy PLEX today would be quite silly.
Anybody who would buy GTC to turn it into PLEX today would be a moron.
Anybody with lots of stale ISK who wants to create real money out of the game has the only opportunity ever to do it.
Is it a bad conversion rate? Who knows, it's a market after all, you either are in for it or are not.

When I had old useless schoolbooks (they were stupidly bad in my country) I could trash them or sell them for 1/3 of their value. Guess what did I do?

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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-04-12 15:56:33 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Dirk Decibel wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Dirk Decibel wrote:
You can dice and slice that any way you want, it's a crappy deal.

For who?

For everyone not able to throw away 10+ billion isk or the equivalent of that in RL money they would be saving on EVE subs by using that isk for gametime.

So for some people it isn't a "crappy deal" and that was my original point.

Just the same as in real life where for some people spending a million pounds on a car is ridiculous extravagance but for others it's a minor luxury that can be purchased at a whim.

Paying 1 million dollar in plexes for a car that could also be bought for 600-700 thousand dollar at your local dealer would be a bad deal too yeah. Oh, not to mention you would be buying last years model.
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-04-12 15:59:59 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


When I had old useless schoolbooks (they were stupidly bad in my country) I could trash them or sell them for 1/3 of their value. Guess what did I do?

Selling anything for 1/3 of it's value sounds like proper trading Roll
Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#40 - 2012-04-12 16:01:23 UTC
once again, for the hard of thinking.

IT'S ONLY A BAD DEAL IF YOU SPEND RL MONIES TO BUY THE PLEX TO GET THE ITEM.







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