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So, what WOULD have happened?
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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-12 14:37:18 UTC
Just saw this in a thread:

masternerdguy wrote:
I wonder how eve would be if bob had beaten the goons.


Thoughts?

Dodixie > Hek
Mystrak
Radiant Technologies
#2 - 2012-04-12 14:38:22 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Just saw this in a thread:

masternerdguy wrote:
I wonder how eve would be if bob had beaten the goons.


Thoughts?


Why you stealing things from my my threads.

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-12 14:40:55 UTC
Shut up, Prencleeve.

Dodixie > Hek
Mystrak
Radiant Technologies
#4 - 2012-04-12 14:42:24 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Shut up, Prencleeve.


Thats a stupid insult.

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-04-12 15:04:08 UTC
Mystrak wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Shut up, Prencleeve.


Thats a stupid insult.

If bob had won maybe prencleeve would be obsessed with SirMolle?

Things are only impossible until they are not.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#6 - 2012-04-12 15:06:00 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Mystrak wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Shut up, Prencleeve.


Thats a stupid insult.

If bob had won maybe prencleeve would be obsessed with SirMolle?


If Bob had won maybe prencleeve wouldn't have a little shrine of Mittani in his closet and a 20ft hole dug out in the basement.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
gfldex
#7 - 2012-04-12 15:31:34 UTC
The same that happened the other two times BoB beaten Goons. Goons went back to Syndicate.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Prince Kobol
#8 - 2012-04-12 15:32:50 UTC
Is there a difference between BoB and Goons Question
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-04-12 15:33:43 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Is there a difference between BoB and Goons Question


Yes. Goons are still alive.

Dodixie > Hek
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#10 - 2012-04-12 15:39:26 UTC
The decline of BoB was probably inevitable so if the Goons had failed to defeat them, then somebody else would have instead.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#11 - 2012-04-12 15:43:03 UTC
Mystrak wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Shut up, Prencleeve.


I'm Prencleeve.

We know you are, Prencleeve.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-04-12 16:24:37 UTC
They'd probably do the same as goons would do.
Have a pact with CCP to produce player driven content.
Araviel
Epic.
#13 - 2012-04-12 16:25:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Araviel
Rodj Blake wrote:
The decline of BoB was probably inevitable so if the Goons had failed to defeat them, then somebody else would have instead.


most likely. bob had allot of enemies.
and there was many individuals within the alliance who had less than honorable intentions.
i know since i was one of them at first.
however in my case and for several others initial plans were soon dropped because we started having so much fun shooting goonies instead.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-12 16:38:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
The Goons beat BOB by meta gaming they didn't beat them by combat.
The Goon's had some help in the combat department.

So question is did the Goon's just voice what 0.0 was already thinking ?
Or did the 0.0 alliances fall into rapture at the voice of the Goon's and let there blood lust take over.

So you really have to decide if the 0.0 Alliances really wanted BOB removed before you can answer your question.

If the 0.0 Alliances wanted BOB removed then it would have happened with or without the Goon's
If 0.0 Alliances fell prey to the voice of Goon's then BOB would still be around.

All 0.0 alliances are around because the rest of 0.0 lets them remain.
That includes the Goon's.
The Goon's are only a 0.0 Sov holding alliance because the Rest of 0.0 allows it,
Which amuses me to know end Big smile

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#15 - 2012-04-12 17:34:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
Simetraz wrote:
The Goons beat BOB by meta gaming they didn't beat them by combat.
The Goon's had some help in the combat department.

So question is did the Goon's just voice what 0.0 was already thinking ?
Or did the 0.0 alliances fall into rapture at the voice of the Goon's and let there blood lust take over.

So you really have to decide if the 0.0 Alliances really wanted BOB removed before you can answer your question.

If the 0.0 Alliances wanted BOB removed then it would have happened with or without the Goon's
If 0.0 Alliances fell prey to the voice of Goon's then BOB would still be around.

All 0.0 alliances are around because the rest of 0.0 lets them remain.
That includes the Goon's.
The Goon's are only a 0.0 Sov holding alliance because the Rest of 0.0 allows it,
Which amuses me to know end Big smile


BoB died because the old ways could not survive the new Eve culture.

Edit: I'm pretty sure the rest of nullsec has tried to get rid of the GSF. But with GSF and their friends they're hard (impossible) to beat.

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I'm 5particus
REV0LTING
#16 - 2012-04-12 17:34:36 UTC

Without Goon support the NC would have failed.
BoB, financed by Technetium would not have fallen to Russian botting federation.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#17 - 2012-04-12 17:42:01 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
But with GSF and their friends they're hard (impossible) to beat.


Thinking that is a weakness in itself.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Araviel
Epic.
#18 - 2012-04-12 17:54:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Araviel
Lapine Davion wrote:


BoB died because the old ways could not survive the new Eve culture.

Edit: I'm pretty sure the rest of nullsec has tried to get rid of the GSF. But with GSF and their friends they're hard (impossible) to beat.


ehm lol @ new eve culture.
what i see everywhere today is people adopting the way we played and in many cases became our masters.
there is no old culture that suddenly got old and disappeared. it is culture evolved.

and i dont think GSF is impossible to beat.
i have a strong feeling history will repeat itself yet again sometime in a not to distant future and the cycle will keep going.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#19 - 2012-04-12 23:01:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
Bane Necran wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
But with GSF and their friends they're hard (impossible) to beat.


Thinking that is a weakness in itself.


Confirming that having friends is a weakness.

Also Araviel, let me rephrase. The culture of BoB didn't evolve with the rest of Eve.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-04-13 00:22:11 UTC
Pissed off ex-GOONs would retire as hi-sec carebears and whine about every little thing BoB does.

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