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Kitty McKitty

In Praise Of Shadows

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#21 - 2011-09-27 19:18:02 UTC

Feligast wrote:

Kitty McKitty wrote:

Dirk Magnum wrote:

Now that people have answered your actual question, I have to ask about the title of this thread.
Namely, why would you want to prevent getting blown outside anywhere?

I was going to post a similar thing.

Now that you know how to avoid getting ganked next time, to answer the actual question in the title: Try to avoid any ladies loitering outside the station, in the shadows.

The OP never said anything about ladies... O.o

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Involved parties:

Name: iceprick (laid the final blow)
Security: -1.3
Corp: Interstellar Brotherhood

♥ Haviing your portrait painted here helps INTAKI Disabled Children ♥

Dustin Roac

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#22 - 2011-09-27 20:26:29 UTC

Thanks for all the advice. As I don't expect to be hauling out any huge loads from here out (if I ever do a complete refit/reship I suppose I'll just have all the equip couriered)... I'm thinking maybe a heavily tanked drake with inertia stabs in the low's? (caldari pilot) Most people probably target EM in jita though so might not be the best route, I've got amarr up to cruisers so a couple days training would put me in a probably better route armor bc's, but then don't have the lows for stabs... hmm

Anyway something to think about I guess, thanks all again.

Gecko 136

Royal Khanid Reverie Reserves

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#23 - 2011-09-27 21:08:51 UTC | Edited by: Gecko 136

Dustin Roac wrote:

As this is my money maker, and I'm comfortbly running level 4's now I'm just trying to get more efficient at them. So after gettin ga bestower full of loot, I make my usual trip to 4-4 to offload it. It just so happened I got to log off for a couple hours after making my orders then coming back to see a lot of them filled, and I'm able to buy a couple of goodies to hopefully make my missioning better, and stock up on some missiles.

So I've got roughtly around 100-150mil items, in particilar a gist-a kin hardner and a gist-a therm hardner, along with about 10,000 assorted T2 missiles.

I undock as usual click my gate and click warp to. and see someone target locking me

I know right then I'm not going to make it.

KillMail

I know better than to smack talk, especially after something so minimal. While I did immediately log off as I was a bit pissed, but put it aside, logged back on and bought me another bestower and fitted it, got some more missiles and went back to grind again.

After looking at the killmail though, and seeing he was in an apoc, I have to wonder, that seems like a high risk for a suicide gank. The thermal hardner was the most at about 65mil, the kin one was 50, and only one of them dropped. a few mil in the missiles dropped... Even if everything had dropped it seemed like a very small profit margin for a suicide right outside the station

But that thought aside, I also wonder how am I supposed to prevent this? Something tells me not to expect this unless I'm hauling a VERY expensive load, but in that case, am I supposed to use sealed cargo, just stay way from hubs, etc.. ?

Props to the guy, it was a one shot kill as far as I saw, but am I missing something or did he come out negative on that deal?

He killed you to extract tears. Mission accomplished.

Also, to answer the question in your title, wear a condom.

Sugilite

Perkone

Caldari State

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#24 - 2011-09-27 21:34:12 UTC

Dustin Roac wrote:

Jita's a .9 system and there is often concord sitting right there on the station. Fly in something that can't be alphad and you're fine. Drake works.

TalonKarrde84

Ysalamiri Ltd

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#25 - 2011-09-27 23:32:57 UTC

Get in a shuttle or frigate w/ MWD, undock from Jita 4-4, fly out past collision range of the blob of ships, and engage your MWD.

Let it sit for about 5 minutes.

When you come back, check for bumping - is the ass end of your ship still pointed at Jita 4-4 station?

If so, make a bookmark.

Warp back to Jita 4-4 station. Fly right up to the mouth of the docking bay. Make another bookmark.

From now on, when you warp to Jita 4-4 station, warp to the point-blank bookmark, so you'll be inside the docking radius and dock instantly.

From now on, when you undock from Jita 4-4 station, take NO ACTION except to r-click in the starfield and select your undock BM.

You will warp off immediately, regardless of what ship you are in.

The only thing that can get you if you do this is someone suiciding with smartbombs, so do it in a tanked Orca and you're set - but just for the record I have smuggled trillions of isk in and out of Jita 4-4 in a shuttle this way.

Apparently people don't like to smartbomb 4-4, something about going to -10 sec status instantaneously and being run out of hisec by CONCORD Cool

KARNAGE 65
Otonashi Saya KARNAGE Likes received: 65	#26 - 2011-09-28 01:30:13 UTC Wow iceprick you evil Person you!......Advice for OP Just fly something that is Tanky, that way less chance of Ganky. "Do you expect me to talk?"........"No Mr Bond I expect you to die"

Dustin Roac

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#27 - 2011-09-28 03:10:00 UTC

I'll just say I've came out of this affair a wiser person.

I had under estimated the risk I was taking, now that I'm breaking into the expensive higher end equipment, and was caught unprepared and unawares.

In fact I almost want to thank iceprick (almost) for helping teach me this lesson now, had I opted to save that isk my next run was going to be on a near bil to complete my fit. Losing that might have actually brought on the lulzy tears.

So thanks, Crime & Punishment, and all those associated with that endeavor. I do hope the gist therm hardner goes to good use or profit. Pirate

Lady Go Diveher

Doomheim

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#28 - 2011-09-29 12:08:03 UTC | Edited by: Lady Go Diveher

RE: Whether he breaks even on this or not.

Consider, that in a fully untanked Bestower you can get one-shot by a 6mil Rupture, so you're pretty much dead set on doomville if you don't tank.

The rest of the advice here is solid, too.

There's one Caldari battleship that does the tanky hauler thing particularly nicely, The Rokh.

Loads of EHP and rarely gets cargo scanned. Try:

[Rokh, Haulin']
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II

[empty high slot x8]

Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I

Undock, overheat and activate the mids, and start warping away. You get ~210k EHP so anything short of an armada won't hurt you. In less tricky situations, just activate the hardeners. You have more EHP than a Freighter. 1295m3 cargo space. Yeah .. its not a lot. But it will move plenty of high value modules, faction ammo, blueprints, what have you.

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