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Why is the cost of maintaining/dec a war based on the amount of people in the target corp/alliance?

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Mugged Yougot
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-12 00:12:45 UTC
As topic says: Why is the cost of maintaining /dec a war based on the amount of people in the target corp/alliance, and not the amount of people in the corp that is declaring? This would prevent deck-shield alliances, and to be fair, it's only reasonable considering a huge alliance should be able to deal with a smaller one. It also evens out the balance when a big alliance decides to dec a small one.
Niko DelValle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-04-12 01:28:34 UTC
I agree, it's absolutely ridiculous when a tiny corp gets harassed by a bigger one while the corp who declares it spends almost nothing to do so.

Now here come all of the whiners with huge corps who think this is a bad idea...
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Mugged Yougot
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-04-12 05:35:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Mugged Yougot
Hehe, not unlikely that will happen. But in-before "ZOMG WE CANNOT ZERG!?!?" keep in mind that you can easily get a war going at a reasonable cost even if you're in a huge corp by creating an alternative corp to use for waging wars against smaller targets, and the fairness will provide good fights all over, and less of a clusterfuck.
Sigras
Conglomo
#4 - 2012-04-12 06:28:22 UTC
I think its to keep one man alt corps from keeping large alliances perma decced for basically free just on the off chance to catch one of their freighters in high sec.

The problem isnt the legitimate wars, the problem is the 1-2 man corporations with a string of out of corporation alts backing them up.

However, I think there should be some multiplier based on the disparity between the two entities, IE if a 3 man corp deccs a 1000 man alliance or a 3000 man alliance deccs a 20 man high sec corp they should pay a "dishonor" penalty

From a gameplay standpoint and an RP standpoint I understand the reason they went the way they did:

Gameplay - You're paying for extra targets to shoot at, you want more targets, you pay more isk
RP - youre bribing concord to look the other way while you shoot people, the more people you want to shoot the more you have to bribe them.
Mugged Yougot
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-04-12 14:36:52 UTC
Sigras wrote:
I think its to keep one man alt corps from keeping large alliances perma decced for basically free just on the off chance to catch one of their freighters in high sec.

The problem isnt the legitimate wars, the problem is the 1-2 man corporations with a string of out of corporation alts backing them up.

However, I think there should be some multiplier based on the disparity between the two entities, IE if a 3 man corp deccs a 1000 man alliance or a 3000 man alliance deccs a 20 man high sec corp they should pay a "dishonor" penalty

From a gameplay standpoint and an RP standpoint I understand the reason they went the way they did:

Gameplay - You're paying for extra targets to shoot at, you want more targets, you pay more isk
RP - youre bribing concord to look the other way while you shoot people, the more people you want to shoot the more you have to bribe them.
Yeah, I was debating about that as well and came to the conclusion that a big corps should be able to handle a war vs one person, but I see your point. Hopefully CCP will come up with a solution that benefits both parties.
Niko DelValle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-12 16:05:51 UTC
I agree with the dishonor penalty, and your right, it does make sense from a fiction standpoint.

It's just completely unfair that the big corps can pay almost nothing to war-dec a small corp and blow them off the map in a matter of days.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#7 - 2012-04-12 17:09:52 UTC
Because:

  • It nerfs the faggotry that 0rphanage (and other such groups) pull off by hogging market hub undocks while wardeccing huge alliances.
  • It discourages 1-2 man tax-dodge "lookit me soloing Eve guys" corps.
  • Promotes people working together in bigger organizations (Alliances in hisec? Who'd have thunk?).
  • Along with the locked-in 7 day wardec and the defenders being able to hire mercs, it creates the mechanic of "trap corps".


But mostly, it's to troll hisec carebears.

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