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30 Days not worth it. Should it be removed?
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Aggressive Nutmeg
#21 - 2012-04-12 00:49:35 UTC
I'm not buying a PLEX with real money until they're worth about 1 billion ISK.

Shouldn't be long now.

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Ai Shun
#22 - 2012-04-12 00:54:36 UTC
Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:
I'm not buying a PLEX with real money until they're worth about 1 billion ISK.

Shouldn't be long now.


And at that price I'll be buying enough to fund a few Jump Freighters.
cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#23 - 2012-04-12 00:56:34 UTC
1. STOP hunting bounties
2. STOP running incursions.
3. STOP wormhole mining.

Stop all the above and inflation will go away.

Monthly ISK gain currently is 50 trillion
Monthly ISK sink currently is only 26 trillion

Your money will devalue unless more sinks are introduced and ISK prices will continue to rise.

At this rate shooting asteroids may be more profitable then even hunting bounties.

In the future everyone will be a miner.

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.
Dandro Gaterau
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-04-12 01:00:53 UTC
CCP removes 2000 PLEX from the game with the Gfx card for PLEX campaign.

Think about it. This surely has a bad impact on PLEX ISK prices and CCP 100% knows that. I can't see how they "want" to let content creators play for ISK.
Marexlovox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-04-12 01:21:14 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
1. STOP hunting bounties
2. STOP running incursions.
3. STOP wormhole mining.

Stop all the above and inflation will go away.

Monthly ISK gain currently is 50 trillion
Monthly ISK sink currently is only 26 trillion

Your money will devalue unless more sinks are introduced and ISK prices will continue to rise.

At this rate shooting asteroids may be more profitable then even hunting bounties.

In the future everyone will be a miner.


Ratting - Always been around - Null sec has to have something worth living in.
Mining - Always been around - About time they removed drone mins for miners.
Incursion - Maybe is one to blame. Especially for empire, in which high sec incursion's should be removed in my opinion , should just low/null for incursions. I don't think the high incursion nerf is enough, is 10% less really gonna make that much of a difference?
Missions - Needs to come back for empire, do people even run missions anymore with incursions?
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-04-12 01:28:36 UTC
The purpose of PLEX is for people to sell it at a profit, not for you to get game time. Sorry.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#27 - 2012-04-12 01:29:44 UTC
Dandro Gaterau wrote:
CCP removes 2000 PLEX from the game with the Gfx card for PLEX campaign.

Think about it. This surely has a bad impact on PLEX ISK prices and CCP 100% knows that. I can't see how they "want" to let content creators play for ISK.

^This

In addition they had several other events like PLEX4hawai or whatever.

While it sounds cool as humanity act ... it has a bad impact ingame.

In addition this GFx Card is about twice as expensive as if you would buy it for real money. So it's a scam technical ;).

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!
Ai Shun
#28 - 2012-04-12 01:30:09 UTC
Dandro Gaterau wrote:
Think about it. This surely has a bad impact on PLEX ISK prices and CCP 100% knows that. I can't see how they "want" to let content creators play for ISK.


Why not? The PLEX was paid for in $$$ by someone. And usually more than a sub is worth.
Marexlovox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-04-12 01:31:30 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
The purpose of PLEX is for people to sell it at a profit, not for you to get game time. Sorry.


Cmon guys this an epic whine thread, post better posts.Smile
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-04-12 01:43:46 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
Easy solution: Make it the same cost to buy PLEX as it is to pay for a subscription. That would fix it.


it... doesnt?
Thought they were $15

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#31 - 2012-04-12 01:52:55 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Aranakas wrote:
Easy solution: Make it the same cost to buy PLEX as it is to pay for a subscription. That would fix it.
it... doesnt?
Thought they were $15
No, most places sell them for $35 for an ETC, which is traded in for 2× PLEX at $17.50 each.
You can also buy PLEX directly, but only from CCP, for anywhere between $20 (for a single one) to $17.50 each (for a pack of 28).
Ai Shun
#32 - 2012-04-12 01:54:40 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Aranakas wrote:
Easy solution: Make it the same cost to buy PLEX as it is to pay for a subscription. That would fix it.


it... doesnt?
Thought they were $15


1 month subscription = $14.95
1 PLEX = $19.95

6 month subscription = $71.70
6 PLEX = $104.97

12 month subscription = $131.40
12 PLEX = $209.94

60 day GTC = $34.99 (Shattered Crystal)
That can convert to two PLEX or two months of game-time. You can do the math yourself.

I don't understand what Aranakas was on about either, but he's been ranting about PLEX being pay to win for a bit now.
Janet Patton
Brony Express
#33 - 2012-04-12 01:58:31 UTC
There is obviously a demand for PLEX if the prices keep going up. I don't see anything wrong with the system.

PLEX original intention was to combat 3rd party ISK sellers. It gives players the option to spend RL money for a item that can be traded for in ISK. It helps redistribute the in game wealth between players.

The beauty behind this system is that is that CCP doesn't create or add any new ISK to the game. Instead it's liberated from those that have more ISK then they know what to do with.

IMO if you are playing this game and are just barely making enough ISK to buy PLEX every 30days. You probably shouldn't be buying it.

I think your complaint is This use to be affordable and now it isn't. This is how FREE markets work!

DEMAND is obviously at work here, more people want FREE game time and seem to have a lot more ISK then you to burn.

Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke.
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-04-12 02:13:51 UTC
if you are not poor why not pay the 15 bux a month or buy a yearly sub for a discount?
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