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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#21 - 2011-09-27 14:45:23 UTC
Magic is the 5th damage type in EVE. When the Jovians come, you'll see.

MAGIC MISSILE!!!! ShockedShocked

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#22 - 2011-09-27 14:49:29 UTC
CCP Wrangler wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Qupid Stunt wrote:
I’m not a fan of roll playing.

And you shouldn't.

Playing with food is only acceptable for little children.
Depends on what you're doing, in some cases adults can play with food too. Of course in those cases children are definitely not allowed. Cool

I'd put that as alternative consumption method and not playing. Lol

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AFKCloaked AltSpy
Doomheim
#23 - 2011-09-27 14:53:11 UTC
Dunno where my post went, heres how it happens...

Your pod becoming breached is the catalyst.

Then, the pod takes a brain scan of your brain.

The brain scan is so brutal its literally crippling, which is why the pod injects poison that instantly kills your brain the nanosecond the scan is done.

The pod transmits the brain scan results and self destructs.

No magic involved. Or greasy ass elves for that matter.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#24 - 2011-09-27 15:01:19 UTC
Just how much did they really have to smoke?

The Vorta of DS9 were all cloned repeatedly. Jem'Hadar were raised in "birthing pods".
Traveling vast distances via wormhole was also a big part of DS9.

In the Lexx series, there were various references to "the protein bank" in the first 4 movies before the destruction of The Cluster.

The mysterious weapon used by the Amarr seems similar to the MD from "Ender's Game".

It would probably take an entire book to go through all Eve technology and concepts and find from what series or book it came from - something I would reserve a case of beer and a long thread for.






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Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2011-09-27 19:19:05 UTC
Any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic... deal with it
Sgt Maru
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2011-09-27 19:49:14 UTC
EVE isn't a plucky happy go lucky universe. It's grim, dark, sadistic, and brutal. And especially in a picky business like cloning, the standardized clone theory would be good for profits. Of course that's just one company, and gives a general idea of the business. My backstory is I still have my natural home grown orignal body in storage...it helps ease the horror of using clones.
Cyra Mangeiri
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2011-09-27 20:09:57 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
CCP Spitfire wrote:
A more detailed explanation of the cloning process can be found in this chronicle on EVElopedia.


Doh. I always thought that clones where created from cell samples and where grown out at an accelerated pace from a zygote until their development matched that of the original body (much as real world cloning goes, just without a need to wait for years until the clone is grown-up). The idea of being a reanimated corpse taken over by a culture of my cells (kind of a hi-tech zombie) makes death quite unappealing and disturbing... I was happier to not know that, really. What?


It does kind of make sense, though.. Even if you consider accelerated growth, it'd still be weeks (or days, if you're really advanced), before a clone would be matured. Whatever biomatter gets left over from corpses is either used for Quafe (the ever so popular soft drink in New Eden) or clones, it's simply a matter of efficiency over the possible indigestion of an over-sensitive egger.

There was a chronicle of a team of salvagers who hunted for corpses, too, but I forget the name and can't seem to find it fast enough to link.
okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2011-09-27 21:20:45 UTC  |  Edited by: okst666
CCP Wrangler wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Qupid Stunt wrote:
I’m not a fan of roll playing.

And you shouldn't.

Playing with food is only acceptable for little children.
Depends on what you're doing, in some cases adults can play with food too. Of course in those cases children are definitely not allowed. Cool



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Rock Zilla
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2011-09-27 22:14:44 UTC
Zyress wrote:
Any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic... deal with it




Oh DUDE...

You just blew my ...FREAKIN MIND>>>>Shocked

Airplanes are just flying carpets......

Whoaaaaa!
Sadayiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2011-09-27 22:30:55 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
CCP Spitfire wrote:
A more detailed explanation of the cloning process can be found in this chronicle on EVElopedia.


Doh. I always thought that clones where created from cell samples and where grown out at an accelerated pace from a zygote until their development matched that of the original body (much as real world cloning goes, just without a need to wait for years until the clone is grown-up). The idea of being a reanimated corpse taken over by a culture of my cells (kind of a hi-tech zombie) makes death quite unappealing and disturbing... I was happier to not know that, really. What?



that's why i stored in cryostasis my original Body and start using a new clone just for everyday .

Also i may be quite wrong but wasn't the Protein bank a huge mass of Processed corpses from the executions in the cluster to feed first the Lexx and later the gigashadow?
Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
#31 - 2011-09-27 22:54:15 UTC
Cyra Mangeiri wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
CCP Spitfire wrote:
A more detailed explanation of the cloning process can be found in this chronicle on EVElopedia.


Doh. I always thought that clones where created from cell samples and where grown out at an accelerated pace from a zygote until their development matched that of the original body (much as real world cloning goes, just without a need to wait for years until the clone is grown-up). The idea of being a reanimated corpse taken over by a culture of my cells (kind of a hi-tech zombie) makes death quite unappealing and disturbing... I was happier to not know that, really. What?


It does kind of make sense, though.. Even if you consider accelerated growth, it'd still be weeks (or days, if you're really advanced), before a clone would be matured. Whatever biomatter gets left over from corpses is either used for Quafe (the ever so popular soft drink in New Eden) or clones, it's simply a matter of efficiency over the possible indigestion of an over-sensitive egger.

There was a chronicle of a team of salvagers who hunted for corpses, too, but I forget the name and can't seem to find it fast enough to link.


You're welcome.

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Sgt Maru
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2011-09-27 23:39:49 UTC
Koronakesh wrote:
You're welcome.


Oh my, well I'm glad I don't drink that stuff...Soylent Green, though mmm-mmm, is quite tasty, especially around this time of year. I wonder why it changes seasonally...anybody have clues?
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2011-09-28 00:31:50 UTC
Qupid Stunt wrote:
I’m not a fan of role playing. I mean the lore loving, olde English speaking, socially inept, forever single type of role playing but I do like the rationalization behind my game to be sound. Eve, being a science fiction based game demands more believable back story since it is based on reality and not magic!

So when they had to explain how you survive dying….WTF were they thinking!

I’m in a pod of jelly and if I get killed the pod detects the exact moment before my brain shuts down, records a copy of my consciousness, injects me with a lethal injection then sends my recorded consciousness to a space station where a cadaver….I fkin cadaver! Which looks just like me has my consciousness uploaded to it and here I am. Alive and well in some other tvats body.

What were CCP smoking?


Well that is a shame.

I think Role Playing should be done by everyone at least some point in EVE.

And i think YOUR time to do it is right now.

So why don't you role play as an Amarrian in prayer? You do know they are silent for exceptionally long periods of time, right?

I think you role playing as a silent praying Amarrian would be a beacon of hope for us all.

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Logan LaMort
Screaming Hayabusa
#34 - 2011-09-28 00:45:47 UTC
Sadayiel wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
CCP Spitfire wrote:
A more detailed explanation of the cloning process can be found in this chronicle on EVElopedia.


Doh. I always thought that clones where created from cell samples and where grown out at an accelerated pace from a zygote until their development matched that of the original body (much as real world cloning goes, just without a need to wait for years until the clone is grown-up). The idea of being a reanimated corpse taken over by a culture of my cells (kind of a hi-tech zombie) makes death quite unappealing and disturbing... I was happier to not know that, really. What?



that's why i stored in cryostasis my original Body and start using a new clone just for everyday .

Also i may be quite wrong but wasn't the Protein bank a huge mass of Processed corpses from the executions in the cluster to feed first the Lexx and later the gigashadow?


Hey I did that, my original body has never been destroyed and is stored away as a jump clone that I won't use. So when I get podded it's just my clone, and this works for both fiction viewpoints.

Either my consciousness is really transferred from body to body, in which case I'll always be me.

Or I'm still in my original body and a clone of me is flying my ships, in which case my memories, or copies of my memories really, are transferred from clone to clone. If I ever activated my original body again, my original mind would be flooded with all of these copied memories that really happened, but not to my original body, not that it matters because to me it would be as though I really experienced them, which I didn't, my clones did.

So either way I've never really died, because my original body is still intact and frozen. Well this was the case when becoming a pod pilot didn't involve euthanasia, but even then jump clones exist for regular people, so I could have easily jump cloned into a new clone and had that euthanised... but than the whole euthanasia thing just seems pointless and added for shock value, in EVE there would be nothing stopping you just jump cloning into a clone with all of the implants already installed.
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2011-09-28 00:57:48 UTC
Seleene wrote:
Magic is the 5th damage type in EVE. When the Jovians come, you'll see.

MAGIC MISSILE!!!! ShockedShocked


Now THAT would be something to see.... EVE with Advanced D&D 3 rules..

* Alvis Queen rolls 1d4; a glancing blow dealing 20 damage
* Your group of Tachyon 2's roll 4d20; wrecking for 4527.3 damage
* Alvis Queen rolls 2d6; You save with hardeners, taking half damage, 35 damage

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luZk
Fivrelde Corp
#36 - 2011-09-28 01:11:04 UTC
I actually think EVE has the most believable death/respawn system of any MMO.

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Large Collidable Object
morons.
#37 - 2011-09-28 01:26:18 UTC
CCP Wrangler wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Qupid Stunt wrote:
I’m not a fan of roll playing.

And you shouldn't.

Playing with food is only acceptable for little children.
Depends on what you're doing, in some cases adults can play with food too. Of course in those cases children are definitely not allowed. Cool



Roll playing is actually more fun than playing eve at its current state.

Also, I like aubergines.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Jita Alt666
#38 - 2011-09-28 01:47:32 UTC
Dear OP: if you are worried about Pod Clones - what are your views on Jump Clones?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#39 - 2011-09-28 02:47:04 UTC
Rock Zilla wrote:
Zyress wrote:
Any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic... deal with it




Oh DUDE...

You just blew my ...FREAKIN MIND>>>>Shocked

Airplanes are just flying carpets......

Whoaaaaa!



now turn it on its head & you come up with Nivens converse to Clarkes 3rd law

Larry Niven wrote:
"any sufficiently rigorously defined magic is indistinguishable from technology"

& paraphrased
Ponder Stibbons wrote:
Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology


you can thank Terry Pratchett & Larry Niven for those little gems :)



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beor oranes
Tranquility Tavern
Pandemic Horde
#40 - 2011-09-28 03:39:29 UTC
I'm magic. I can turn one substance (food) into a completely new substance.
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