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Seriously CCP?

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DonHel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-11 17:45:46 UTC
Nvidia graphics card for 20 plex... you dont like RMT guys... you just frikin gave them RMT on a platter... like wth.. whats to stop IRMTnBotallday character from buying up the markets plex, cashing in with alts then selling all his new graphics cards for cold hard cash????? wheres your morals now?
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-04-11 17:47:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
only one card per account

only 100 cards total

and a bad $/ISK ratio
($14-15/1b ISK; retail RMT price is $20 (+/-2)/1b ISK)
Mark Androcius
#3 - 2012-04-11 17:48:43 UTC
That actually kinda got me thinking too, maybe i could sell some stuff i own in real life, for the highest PLEX bidder in eve.
And to make this really EVE like, i would of course demand to have the PLEX first and after that i just don't deliver, that would be a nice scam really.

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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#4 - 2012-04-11 17:48:50 UTC
Because CCP obviously isn't going to be doing any security analysis on postal addresses etc.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-04-11 17:48:54 UTC
it is likely ccp actually thought of that already
Andrew W-K
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-04-11 17:48:57 UTC
I might actually buy a GTC or two and convert to plex. Putting more demand on the plex market is going to put huge pressure on the supply side and the price.
Mark Androcius
#7 - 2012-04-11 17:50:46 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
only one card per account

only 100 cards total

and a bad $/ISK ratio


Not to mention, at 20 euro's a piece ( when buying PLEX for CCP ), 20 PLEX amounts to 400 euro's, which is quite a lot for something that is not even top of the line.

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Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-11 17:57:24 UTC
I believe it was mentioned that this was designed for people who are already sitting on 20 plexes in game and cannot afford to play this game nor could they afford to upgrade.

Its not designed for people who can BUY plexes to buy a videa card.

-Vix

SWA Instructor, Commander Select Currently being blamed as SWA's CEO SWA PVP Program
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-04-11 17:58:43 UTC
Yes...the other thread for this was not good enough. We should make another as this one is also lacking...

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#10 - 2012-04-11 18:00:20 UTC
Should really have 8 threads, with one really big one, for this to be true forum outrage.

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Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-04-11 18:01:28 UTC
Stellar Vix wrote:
I believe it was mentioned that this was designed for people who are already sitting on 20 plexes in game and cannot afford to play this game nor could they afford to upgrade.

Its not designed for people who can BUY plexes to buy a videa card.

-Vix

some might say it is designed for people who want to convert some of their isk into $$, though

might be interesting to watch how many of these cards show up on ebay over the next few days^^
Mark Androcius
#12 - 2012-04-11 18:05:01 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
some might say it is designed for people who want to convert some of their isk into $$, though

might be interesting to watch how many of these cards show up on ebay over the next few days^^


I wouldn't bet on it, selling PLEX for real cash still isn't monitored well enough and can still be done pretty easily, so i don't think this long way around is particularly "useful" to the people who sell in game stuff for real money.

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Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#13 - 2012-04-11 18:20:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Cloned S0ul
Im owner of 3 account but im poor in game actualy i have around 60mil isk in wallet and around 2.5bil isk in total assets after 4 years playing EvE, in theory i can buy 3 card one per account, but i cant afford even one card by this way, to earn 20plexes i have to grind mission curple months 24/7 and after this farm i transform into zombie, so not thanks im to lazy, i have other goals in game than farm for those cards, but is somone is rich like super traders who made bilions per day in j4m4 why not...
TkAlligator38
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-11 18:44:46 UTC
DonHel wrote:
Nvidia graphics card for 20 plex... you dont like RMT guys... you just frikin gave them RMT on a platter... like wth.. whats to stop IRMTnBotallday character from buying up the markets plex, cashing in with alts then selling all his new graphics cards for cold hard cash????? wheres your morals now?


Did you even bother to convert the PLEX prices into real cash, where you'd have found that it vastly exceeds the value of those cards, so it wouldn't be worth it to engage in worthwhile RMT?

I guess not.

People like you should be banned in an effort to increase average EVE IQ.
DonHel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-04-11 19:01:54 UTC  |  Edited by: DonHel
TkAlligator38 wrote:
DonHel wrote:
Nvidia graphics card for 20 plex... you dont like RMT guys... you just frikin gave them RMT on a platter... like wth.. whats to stop IRMTnBotallday character from buying up the markets plex, cashing in with alts then selling all his new graphics cards for cold hard cash????? wheres your morals now?


Did you even bother to convert the PLEX prices into real cash, where you'd have found that it vastly exceeds the value of those cards, so it wouldn't be worth it to engage in worthwhile RMT?

I guess not.

People like you should be banned in an effort to increase average EVE IQ.



mmmmk, If i'm sitting on 500 billion isk and I don't ever buy a plex with RL money... that means all them plex I can buy , I have got at zero cost.... I then recieve my cards per account, go to ebay and make some money? so wtf are you talking about? and I know that people actually sell isk and items from certain sites and it is more valuable... but someone who doesnt sell on that and wants to make some bucks has just been given the opportunity....

and being able to do it 100% legal and unmonitored by ccp
Mark Androcius
#16 - 2012-04-11 19:04:27 UTC
TkAlligator38 wrote:
Did you even bother to convert the PLEX prices into real cash, where you'd have found that it vastly exceeds the value of those cards, so it wouldn't be worth it to engage in worthwhile RMT?

I guess not.

People like you should be banned in an effort to increase average EVE IQ.


That's exactly what i said earlier....... lol

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Mark Androcius
#17 - 2012-04-11 19:07:29 UTC
DonHel wrote:
mmmmk, If i'm sitting on 500 billion isk and I don't ever buy a plex with RL money... that means all them plex I can buy , I have got at zero cost.... I then recieve my cards per account, go to ebay and make some money? so wtf are you talking about? and I know that people actually sell isk and items from certain sites and it is more valuable... but someone who doesnt sell on that and wants to make some bucks has just been given the opportunity....

and being able to do it 100% legal and unmonitored by ccp


Seeing as this is a one time thing, i don't see the real problem.
Don't know about anybody else, but i would never give away 10 BILLION ISK, to get a video card, that i might be able to sell for 100 euro's on ebay.

https://androcius.wordpress.com
IronLemur
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-04-11 19:09:02 UTC  |  Edited by: IronLemur
TkAlligator38 wrote:
DonHel wrote:
Nvidia graphics card for 20 plex... you dont like RMT guys... you just frikin gave them RMT on a platter... like wth.. whats to stop IRMTnBotallday character from buying up the markets plex, cashing in with alts then selling all his new graphics cards for cold hard cash????? wheres your morals now?


Did you even bother to convert the PLEX prices into real cash, where you'd have found that it vastly exceeds the value of those cards, so it wouldn't be worth it to engage in worthwhile RMT?

I guess not.

People like you should be banned in an effort to increase average EVE IQ.


This.

Let the botters buy them all up....and then lose money trying to sell them for "cold hard cash" Avg PLEX right now on the Acct management page is $19.95 x 20 = $399 whereas the BEST version of this GFX card (EVGA brand with Fermi) Would be at most around $250 through an actual electronics company with a return policy, warantee, etc:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

You have to have an assload of PLEX or ISk lying around to bother buying one of these cards, and even then you'd probably be a moron to buy one unless you just don't have a job.

Not to mention nVidia just released their new 680 GTX so the prices of these cards will probably be falling even more in the next few months.

TLDR; the cards are way overpriced, this is just an isk funnel to get rid of some of the market. If you like paying $400 for a $200 card then keep complaining, but if the botter wants to dominate this "sweet deal" more power to them


Stellar Vix wrote:
I believe it was mentioned that this was designed for people who are already sitting on 20 plexes in game and cannot afford to play this game nor could they afford to upgrade.

Its not designed for people who can BUY plexes to buy a videa card.

-Vix


In this case then should probably log off and apply for a job rather than worrying about a graphics card
DonHel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-04-11 19:16:04 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
DonHel wrote:
mmmmk, If i'm sitting on 500 billion isk and I don't ever buy a plex with RL money... that means all them plex I can buy , I have got at zero cost.... I then recieve my cards per account, go to ebay and make some money? so wtf are you talking about? and I know that people actually sell isk and items from certain sites and it is more valuable... but someone who doesnt sell on that and wants to make some bucks has just been given the opportunity....

and being able to do it 100% legal and unmonitored by ccp


Seeing as this is a one time thing, i don't see the real problem.
Don't know about anybody else, but i would never give away 10 BILLION ISK, to get a video card, that i might be able to sell for 100 euro's on ebay.




I could really care less if anyone does this or not, I just made this topic to point out that ccp supplied an opening for some legal RMT
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#20 - 2012-04-11 20:18:32 UTC
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