These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
123Next pageLast page
 

Market orders... not rewarding the market bots....
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Spy 21
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-10 19:29:44 UTC
I am guessing that is impossible.

I bought a ship in Rens just now off the market... the market bot order ended in xxx499.97 ISK and the next higher order was xxx500.00 ISK,,, So for the extra .03 ISK and not to reward the bot trader, I clicked on the even number offer and then clicked buy...

I got my ship at the even number amount except it was filled by the bot trader as the number of ships it had for sale went down by 1 and the other offer for a single ship remained.

Sorta makes me mad cause I really didn't want to subsidize that insane penny crap that goes on in market hubs... most by bots, some by real traders. As a former trader, I still have resentments lol...

CCP should allow me to pick who's order I buy from. I simply don't like the market bots that have proliferated in the market hubs.

Just bitching.

Have a nice day.

S

Obfuscation for the WIN on page 3...
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#2 - 2012-04-10 19:32:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Jandice Ymladris
The cruel thing is, if you buy at a higher price, you reward the undercutter! As he gets the isk from your sale (so by example, if you buy a 2 mill mod, and someone has m on market for 1 mill, he suddenly gets 2 mill, providing both orders are in range)

Best way to undercut such marketplayer is by buying in another hub or locale.

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2012-04-10 19:32:44 UTC
How do you know for sure it was a bot order?






☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2012-04-10 19:38:11 UTC
Yes. It's a commodity market, not a super market — it's there to make trading efficient, not to make some trades impossible.
Kieron VonDeux
#5 - 2012-04-10 19:40:19 UTC
I frequently have market orders that end with xxx499.97 ISK and no Blade Runner has been chasing me for being a bot.
Lord FunkyMunky
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-04-10 19:44:46 UTC
Its like this for a reason

if theres 100 orders with 1 unit each of item X and i need 50 of item X and the price is only a difference of 1 isk from all those items, i don't mind waisting the 49 isk, by just selecting the one thats at the higher price , setting the # of items to 50 and buying all 50 orders out for a little extra cash...

Also having stock endings on your prices is not a bot many traders do it just to easily identify there orders, and others do it cause there lazy lol
Spy 21
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-04-10 19:45:38 UTC
Bot or no bot I hate the .01 ISK undercutters... if you wanna be the cheapest than knock out the next guy by being 1 mil cheaper :).. so to me, they are all just BOTS!

Again... an old resentment.

More of a personal problem there... but the reason I post is I really did think I got the order I clicked on, not simply whoever did the last 0.01 ISK drop.

S

Obfuscation for the WIN on page 3...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2012-04-10 19:48:19 UTC
Spy 21 wrote:
More of a personal problem there... but the reason I post is I really did think I got the order I clicked on, not simply whoever did the last 0.01 ISK drop.
Close, but not quite: you got the price you clicked on. The trader gremlins then made sure that everyone got what they wanted in terms of money and goods.
Kieron VonDeux
#9 - 2012-04-10 19:49:40 UTC
Spy 21 wrote:
Bot or no bot I hate the .01 ISK undercutters...


I used to as well, but after a while you just realize that it is simply the PvP nature of the market.
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-04-10 19:56:55 UTC
I'm confused.

If there are two sell orders for the same item and one is at 100 and the other is at 150 and I buy the order at 150, The person listed at 100 gets 150 isk ?

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#11 - 2012-04-10 20:00:51 UTC
Maybe put up buy orders if market competition gets you so upset.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2012-04-10 20:01:33 UTC
Rath Kelbore wrote:
I'm confused.

If there are two sell orders for the same item and one is at 100 and the other is at 150 and I buy the order at 150, The person listed at 100 gets 150 isk ?

Yes.
Kieron VonDeux
#13 - 2012-04-10 20:01:40 UTC
Rath Kelbore wrote:
I'm confused.

If there are two sell orders for the same item and one is at 100 and the other is at 150 and I buy the order at 150, The person listed at 100 gets 150 isk ?


Yes
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-10 20:08:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Rath Kelbore
Why not make it a new isk sink then. Let the "broker" gain the 50 isk in my above example.

If a broker sees someone willing to pay 150 for something and someone else willing to sell it at 100 wouldn't they complete the transaction and keep the 50 dollars? Makes sense to me. Am I missing anything?

Edit: True that's kind of a sneaky isk sink but still.

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#15 - 2012-04-10 20:16:02 UTC
Rath Kelbore wrote:
Why not make it a new isk sink then. Let the "broker" gain the 50 isk in my above example.

If a broker sees someone willing to pay 150 for something and someone else willing to sell it at 100 wouldn't they complete the transaction and keep the 50 dollars? Makes sense to me. Am I missing anything?
FTC will be very upset if they do…? P
Falcon Tastic
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-04-10 20:17:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Falcon Tastic
I trade and I am not a bot.

I often play the 0.01isk game. Its fun. It is like mining. Nice and repetetive.


Also people should remember the station traders provide a service. They keep the market working and competive and also act as a store and intermediary between the seller and buyer. Traders also alow people to quickly liquidate their assets.
Kessiaan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-04-10 20:20:34 UTC
I do some trading; I plug in whatever number my spreadsheet spits out. Just because it doesn't end in .00 doesn't mean its a bot by any means.

KB Link
Marduk Nibiru
Chaos Delivery Systems
#18 - 2012-04-10 20:24:46 UTC
Rath Kelbore wrote:
I'm confused.

If there are two sell orders for the same item and one is at 100 and the other is at 150 and I buy the order at 150, The person listed at 100 gets 150 isk ?


Yep.
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-04-10 20:30:22 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Rath Kelbore wrote:
Why not make it a new isk sink then. Let the "broker" gain the 50 isk in my above example.

If a broker sees someone willing to pay 150 for something and someone else willing to sell it at 100 wouldn't they complete the transaction and keep the 50 dollars? Makes sense to me. Am I missing anything?
FTC will be very upset if they do…? P


Was not aware concord had that division Sad

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Marduk Nibiru
Chaos Delivery Systems
#20 - 2012-04-10 20:34:19 UTC
Spy 21 wrote:
Bot or no bot I hate the .01 ISK undercutters... if you wanna be the cheapest than knock out the next guy by being 1 mil cheaper :).. so to me, they are all just BOTS!


Those bastard tritanium sellers!!!!
123Next pageLast page