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Why cant we buy SP
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Souchi son
Souchi son Corporation
#1 - 2012-04-10 15:59:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Souchi son
Why can't we purchase SP,

- To upgrade your char your forced to buy a new char and just make sure that new char has what you want or wait a few years

- Why not just sell SP like plex.

It seems silly to make people jump through hoops to upgrade your SP, you could charge real money or isk.

People are basicly doing this and it just seems overly complex and unnessary, buying an alt is all good but i think a lot more people would rather focus in on an original char perfect from scratch no wasted SP.

Buying a second alt is handy for hauling or career changes.
It could also create an isky dump for older players.
For new players it might not be so tough leveling up basic skills as well.

Regards SS.
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#2 - 2012-04-10 16:08:28 UTC
For god's sake, before you post search for other posts like the one you posted. Then you'd see the plethora of reasons why not.

To cut a long story short, this isn't WoW. If you don't have patience this is NOT the game for you.
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#3 - 2012-04-10 16:09:28 UTC
P.S. The only reason I haven't listed the reasons is that I'm simply not doing your searching for you. It's like asking someone on the computer next to the one you're on to google something for you. If you can't do it yourself you shouldn't be using a computer.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#4 - 2012-04-10 16:15:08 UTC
Because kestrel.

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Rimase
#5 - 2012-04-10 16:28:45 UTC
Because bots.
Because economy.
Because progression.
Because perseverance.
Because corporate business wars.
Because empire sovereign wars.
Because of fairness.
Because of control.
Because of power.

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Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-04-10 16:49:21 UTC
Personally I don't like the character market either, but to the core of the matter, Pay to win ruins the game. End of statement
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-10 16:52:37 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Because kestrel.


and don't be trashin my Kessies
Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-04-10 16:55:11 UTC
Zyress wrote:
Personally I don't like the character market either, but to the core of the matter, Pay to win ruins the game. End of statement


Then Character Bazaar should be done away with too.

Aranakas CEO of Green Anarchy Green vs Green
Souchi son
Souchi son Corporation
#9 - 2012-04-10 17:10:41 UTC
Seems silly and backwards.

Eve allows the entire sale of characters but not minor improvements on original character.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#10 - 2012-04-10 17:14:28 UTC
Souchi son wrote:
Seems silly and backwards.

Eve allows the entire sale of characters but not minor improvements on original character.

Because those characters had to be skilled up at one point by someone.


You can't buy SP, period. Someone had to go through the time.
Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-04-10 17:34:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Aranakas
Corina Jarr wrote:
Souchi son wrote:
Seems silly and backwards.

Eve allows the entire sale of characters but not minor improvements on original character.

Because those characters had to be skilled up at one point by someone.


You can't buy SP, period. Someone had to go through the time.


And if you increase your skill point, you're the one who skilled up that character.

The difference is......?

It has no effect on the economy. The only difference is that one way will be defended to the death by used character salesmen scum.

Aranakas CEO of Green Anarchy Green vs Green
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#12 - 2012-04-10 17:41:53 UTC
Here's a suggestion, let people buy SP but only up to a monthly limit based on their worst attribute training times. Once you hit that limit you are not allowed to train until the next 30 day period.

Acceleration for the kiddies but fairness to everyone else.

This would mean that EVE could become WAY more attractive for new players that have a bit of extra cash as they could accelerate the first 30 days to jump up to already training stuff like electronics, engineering, navigation, energy management, the boring but essential skills. Let them insta train to a BC so they don't have the agony of waiting. They won't care that they cant train for the rest of the month cause they already got the stuff they wanted. If they train something and then suddenly decide they want something else then too bad, you screwed up, live with your mistakes, this is EVE; have fun waiting 29 days to train anything new.

The Drake is a Lie
RatKnight1
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2012-04-10 18:20:59 UTC
Because eve is not pay to win.

kthx gb2wow
Velicitia
XS Tech
#14 - 2012-04-10 18:38:07 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Here's a suggestion, let people buy SP but only up to a monthly limit based on their worst attribute training times. Once you hit that limit you are not allowed to train until the next 30 day period.

Acceleration for the kiddies but fairness to everyone else.

This would mean that EVE could become WAY more attractive for new players that have a bit of extra cash as they could accelerate the first 30 days to jump up to already training stuff like electronics, engineering, navigation, energy management, the boring but essential skills. Let them insta train to a BC so they don't have the agony of waiting. They won't care that they cant train for the rest of the month cause they already got the stuff they wanted. If they train something and then suddenly decide they want something else then too bad, you screwed up, live with your mistakes, this is EVE; have fun waiting 29 days to train anything new.



and then when they're 4 days old and get murdered by someone who's done the training the "long" way...?

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Ganthrithor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-04-10 19:19:57 UTC
...because your mother dropped you when you were young.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2012-04-10 19:22:42 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Souchi son wrote:
Seems silly and backwards.

Eve allows the entire sale of characters but not minor improvements on original character.

Because those characters had to be skilled up at one point by someone.


You can't buy SP, period. Someone had to go through the time.


And if you increase your skill point, you're the one who skilled up that character.

The difference is......?

It has no effect on the economy. The only difference is that one way will be defended to the death by used character salesmen scum.



yeah, buying SP is exactly the same as training.

Roll
Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-04-10 19:32:49 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Aranakas wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Souchi son wrote:
Seems silly and backwards.

Eve allows the entire sale of characters but not minor improvements on original character.

Because those characters had to be skilled up at one point by someone.


You can't buy SP, period. Someone had to go through the time.


And if you increase your skill point, you're the one who skilled up that character.

The difference is......?

It has no effect on the economy. The only difference is that one way will be defended to the death by used character salesmen scum.



yeah, buying SP is exactly the same as training.

Roll



It costs nothing to train SP. It costs something to fast-forward SP. If anything, fast-forwarding should be more powerful than training.

Aranakas CEO of Green Anarchy Green vs Green
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#18 - 2012-04-10 19:40:39 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
It costs nothing to train SP. It costs something to fast-forward SP. If anything, fast-forwarding should be more powerful than training.


It costs time, which is the rarest of commodities. The very reason people ask for SP-for-x is that they don't want to spend the time on training skills.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#19 - 2012-04-10 19:44:22 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
yeah, buying SP is exactly the same as training.

Roll



It costs nothing to train SP. It costs something to fast-forward SP. If anything, fast-forwarding should be more powerful than training.
It costs time and money to train SP. There is also the matter of consequences in what you train.

Buying SP removes the time and consequences and is the main reason why it is a bad idea.
Fast forwarding as you call it, would be more powerful and that is also why it is a bad idea.

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Herold Oldtimer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-04-10 20:35:26 UTC
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