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INCURSION NEEDS TO BE TONED DOWN, SOMEONE WHO HAS HIS OWN TENGU FLEET IS MAKING 15 BILLION ISK A DAY
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#61 - 2012-03-05 16:58:54 UTC
Angry Brother wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Tengus...incursions...sigh.

Some people will never learn.



he makes 15 bil a day with tengus What?

I heard he makes 20 billion a day even though I never see him in the top ten lists
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#62 - 2012-03-05 17:10:46 UTC
Mr LaForge wrote:
Congrats to the guy with his own fleet. He doesn't have to worry about much unless he has multiple personalities telling each other over comms to shut up.


That shouldn't necessarily be a problem, either, though.

I find that the voices in my head make for far better convo than real people in the vast majority of cases.

But then, I'm INTJ--we're...different. (And we will rule you, one day, you just don't know it yet.)

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#63 - 2012-03-05 17:26:48 UTC
Cain Blazed wrote:
So we make some isk in highsec.. We are having fun, getting fleets, talking on comms. Having a great time, and then we have the likes of you, ridicoulusly jealus..


It's jealous, not "jealus." Don't butcher the English language if you expect to be taken seriously.

Not that this could be, even if it reached the most scintillating apex of pulchritudinous erudition!

(^^That's irony, type: self-deprecative-reversal-as-mockery--a sense of humour helps as well!)

Because it simply isn't true: See, some of us understand that there is more to EVE than grinding ISK, but we also see that all this mindless ISK-grinding at next to no risk, with no commensurate ISK-sinks leads to inflation, which hurts everyone in the near-term, but especially hurts newer/younger players, which also hurts everyone--not least of all CCP--in the medium/longer term.

Unless any of your elitist carebear boys' clubs are picking up newbies for you ub3r1337 bling-barge fleets?

Not that I've seen, at least anytime recently.

You lot need to get over yourselves, and expand your worm's-eye-view of our little virtua-verse...It will do everyone a lot of good, and you might find other aspects of same that you like, too.


Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-03-05 19:52:41 UTC
I still fail to see what is wrong with him using Isboxer and playing the game it allows him to do. I commend him for training all those characters. At least he isn't botting so he's already got at least 50 billion worth of characters that are legitimately transferable.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2012-03-05 22:35:53 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
NullBears can get a 875,000,000 Mining Foreman Mindlink from a STORYLINE........and then say WE have it too easy in High. Roll


Of course the odds of getting that particular mission and that particular award from it are so astronomical that the idiocy of your post has a better chance of becoming a sentient life form that triggers a new big bang seeding a new universe made entirely of Jello Pudding.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
SpaceSquirrels
#66 - 2012-03-06 00:17:28 UTC
I honestly both pity and respect the man for being able to run 10 accounts at once.
Fearless M0F0
Incursion PWNAGE Asc
#67 - 2012-03-06 05:35:36 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Fearless M0F0 wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:

Because l4 missions aren't the completely out-of-whack ISK-faucet that's been driving the price of damned near everything into the stratosphere of late.


Roll

This argument has been beaten to death already thanks to the stats CCP Diagoras has been posting to his twitter account: In average, all incursion runners receive about twice as much isk as lvl 4 runners but only 1/3 of the isk received by bounties (ratting/plex).


Disingenuous, mate (please don't insult my intelligence, thank you):

That's an extra 30-odd percent of new ISK created that wasn't there prior to the Incursion-farming craze,


Your arguments blaming isk inflation to incursions are based in nothing more than pure speculation while mine are based in FACTS, cold hard numbers straight from CCP databases.

Also, there is no 30% new isk as you state, some of us were running lvl 4 missions in Tengus before incursions were introduced so we were making isk anyways... I'll give you 15% ?

And back to the OP, there is no way somebody can fly 10 tengus simultaneously in a vanguard with no logi support and not lose a couple on each site, you need between 4 and 6 large reppers with logi bonuses on you to tank being primaried by a vanguard wave. Anybody claiming you can pilot 10 accounts into a vanguard site is either lying or trolling.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#68 - 2012-03-06 05:36:04 UTC
This guy is doing it wrong.

He needs to add another 10 accounts and double his isk per hour ratio.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#69 - 2012-03-06 06:23:18 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
This guy is doing it wrong.

He needs to add another 10 accounts and double his isk per hour ratio.


Please....

Anything short of an Apple factory style sweat shop of isk-farmers is doing it wrong and deserves a quick and decisive uninstall.

I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#70 - 2012-03-06 06:25:39 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
NullBears can get a 875,000,000 Mining Foreman Mindlink from a STORYLINE........and then say WE have it too easy in High. Roll


Of course the odds of getting that particular mission and that particular award from it are so astronomical that the idiocy of your post has a better chance of becoming a sentient life form that triggers a new big bang seeding a new universe made entirely of Jello Pudding.


Totally off topic but I've played a few other games where people cry and moan about RnG and I keep thinking, they need to try EVE. 6 years of ratting, -9.97 with Serpentis and I've gotten 2 Daredevil BPCs. One of those I stole from a bots Shadow wreck. The RnG in this game has to be the most outrageous going.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2012-03-06 06:52:17 UTC
Now ask me if I care what ten carebears do in their spare time? I doubt he has 5 titan characters he is using to fund this with... Just saying.

Something clever
Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#72 - 2012-03-06 07:10:57 UTC
It's ok dude, my caps lock gets stuck sometimes too ;)

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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#73 - 2012-03-07 10:53:47 UTC
Valentyn3 wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:
This guy is doing it wrong.

He needs to add another 10 accounts and double his isk per hour ratio.


Please....

Anything short of an Apple factory style sweat shop of isk-farmers is doing it wrong and deserves a quick and decisive uninstall.


Roll^^The sense of humour is weak in this one^^Roll

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Katalci
Kismesis
#74 - 2012-04-10 02:40:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Katalci
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:

Because l4 missions aren't the completely out-of-whack ISK-faucet that's been driving the price of damned near everything into the stratosphere of late.

The thing is that level 4 missions are unlimited, while incursion sites are not. The ISK flow can be controlled easily by changing the rate at which sites spawn.

edit: oh my ******* god did I just forget the month
Amarrian Cougar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2012-04-10 03:08:55 UTC
One guy has 10 paying accounts simply to do Incursions?

Yeah, that should make CCP want to nerf it right away.
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2012-04-10 04:48:31 UTC
op's just hatin'

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2012-04-10 14:17:49 UTC
Angry Brother wrote:
Electric Shoe is claiming he makes 15 billion day from incursion with his own tengu fleet alts without any risk. This needs to be addressed as it is an example of the imbalance regarding risk/reward.

here are his alts:

Tengu Tabby
Tengu Talia
Tengu Tasha
Tengu Teagan
Tengu Tequila
Tengu Tex
Tengu Tiffany
Tengu Tomiko
Tengu Tracy
Tengu Trianna

Corporation: Dynamic Space Industries

RL response: Equal opportunity, not equal outcome... HTFU and go get yourself a bunch of accounts and do the same.

RP response: Clones be clonin'... The real difficulty is figuring out which is the hot one.

If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg

But in purple, I'm stunning!
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-04-10 15:23:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Angry Brother wrote:
Electric Shoe is claiming he makes 15 billion day from incursion with his own tengu fleet alts without any risk. This needs to be addressed as it is an example of the imbalance regarding risk/reward.

here are his alts:

Tengu Tabby
Tengu Talia
Tengu Tasha
Tengu Teagan
Tengu Tequila
Tengu Tex
Tengu Tiffany
Tengu Tomiko
Tengu Tracy
Tengu Trianna

Corporation: Dynamic Space Industries


this is eve ideal customer. Get a life "angry" brother! Its no different from any other mmo that has multiple characters
Besides, hav you thought about the amount of real money he must have spent to get 10 alts all the way to tengu pilot? That not only takes long but also the skills for the shields would take a while to get. This is without counting the amount real money he must have spent to get that beast or beasts of computers to run many alts and all the hardware that goes with it! He probably has one of those 10 monitos setup XD. He obviously is rich
GondriA
A Totally Anal Conceited Organization
#79 - 2012-04-10 15:27:39 UTC
Angry Brother wrote:
Electric Shoe is claiming he makes 15 billion day from incursion with his own tengu fleet alts without any risk. This needs to be addressed as it is an example of the imbalance regarding risk/reward.

here are his alts:

Tengu Tabby
Tengu Talia
Tengu Tasha
Tengu Teagan
Tengu Tequila
Tengu Tex
Tengu Tiffany
Tengu Tomiko
Tengu Tracy
Tengu Trianna

Corporation: Dynamic Space Industries


i have a solution for u ..make the 11 more account ...problem solvedTwisted
adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2012-04-10 15:29:00 UTC
Fearless M0F0 wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Fearless M0F0 wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:

Because l4 missions aren't the completely out-of-whack ISK-faucet that's been driving the price of damned near everything into the stratosphere of late.


Roll

This argument has been beaten to death already thanks to the stats CCP Diagoras has been posting to his twitter account: In average, all incursion runners receive about twice as much isk as lvl 4 runners but only 1/3 of the isk received by bounties (ratting/plex).


Disingenuous, mate (please don't insult my intelligence, thank you):

That's an extra 30-odd percent of new ISK created that wasn't there prior to the Incursion-farming craze,


Your arguments blaming isk inflation to incursions are based in nothing more than pure speculation while mine are based in FACTS, cold hard numbers straight from CCP databases.

Also, there is no 30% new isk as you state, some of us were running lvl 4 missions in Tengus before incursions were introduced so we were making isk anyways... I'll give you 15% ?

And back to the OP, there is no way somebody can fly 10 tengus simultaneously in a vanguard with no logi support and not lose a couple on each site, you need between 4 and 6 large reppers with logi bonuses on you to tank being primaried by a vanguard wave. Anybody claiming you can pilot 10 accounts into a vanguard site is either lying or trolling.


Have you ever seen the Tengus subsystems?

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding

5% bonus to all shield resistances per level
10% bonus to shield transporter effectiveness per level

At level 5, with 10 Tengus RRing each other tha'ts enough to tank a Vanguard EZMODE. Hell if my DPS predictions on the Assault sites its possible with 12 Tengus RRing each other to tank it. So you actually know nothing. Desist from posting.