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another ninja lowsec nerf ?
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Xarrg
Crushed Ambitions
#1 - 2011-09-27 17:18:49 UTC
All my eve carrier I live in low sec and pvp in in lowsec.
I do manage sec status above -2.0 so I can enter high sec whenever I want.
I know If I engage somebody I get GCC and the initial aggreesion sec hit. ( around -0.6 )
also I know that that if the target not aggressing back I will get a big sec status hit (around -2.5), But if the target do any aggression I won't get that.
But something changed and i got sec hit even some guys almost killed my ship(so they deffenetly aggressed back).

So I petition to ask whats going on with this.
One of the GM stated that:
This is by design and working as intended.

but this was not like that ....
when is this change happend ?
I did not found any dev blog about this change.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-09-27 17:20:44 UTC
either
you killed a pod
or
you took lots of damage, but from gate guns, not the person themselves.

or you can escalate the petition
Louise Ferrigno
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-09-27 17:28:05 UTC
stop buying isk
Xarrg
Crushed Ambitions
#4 - 2011-09-27 17:33:14 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
either
you killed a pod
or
you took lots of damage, but from gate guns, not the person themselves.

or you can escalate the petition


no, no pod killing . pod kills cost around -4. sec hit

we were at the sun so no gate guns.

the escalate sounds about right, the gm did not sounded who knows what he's talking about.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2011-09-27 17:52:31 UTC
Did you use smartbombs?
Remember smartbombing a swarm of drones gives a massive hit as well to sec status.
Xarrg
Crushed Ambitions
#6 - 2011-09-27 18:03:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Xarrg
Ammzi wrote:
Did you use smartbombs?
Remember smartbombing a swarm of drones gives a massive hit as well to sec status.


no, no drones and no smarboms were involved.

Basicly there a ship at the sun, I go there engaging... getting GCC and -.6 sec hit.
Hes shooting me .
another ships shows up he aproach me and scrmbles me the first ship almost escapes whitout my mwd..
I finish of first ship when my targeting about done for second ship.
I engage second ship and kill second ship.
Then i see i get both the initail aggrresion sec hit and both the ship destruction sec hit.
Even they were shooting me and the second ship was started the engagement to me.

So I deffentley should not get the ship destruction sec hit from them.
and also the GM said This is by design and working as intended. Which is was not the case. It did NOT work like that.
So if CCP changed it then when and where is the devblog about it ?
mkint
#7 - 2011-09-27 18:33:30 UTC
Escalate it. Get your damage logs ready to verify that both opponents did aggress you. Sounds like the GM only glanced at the server logs without actually checking damage logs (assuming those are even stored server side.) If the Boss GMs say there's been a change, then come back and make a bigger stink on the forums.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.