EVE General Discussion

I've been running level 4s for the last two days straight to grind standings up for a station trading alt, I've been completely ignoring aggro/triggers and I haven't bothered swapping from my omni-tank.

If your definition of dangerous or difficult is worlds collide I strongly recommend you warp into the last room of the blood 10/10. Or take your mission ship for a stroll through fountain, whichever takes your fancy.

That one kill alone should reduce the current inflation affecting the market for months.

while you are moaning about missions. try the worlds collide amarr style. You hit the gate wrong and you agro everything in the room and you are double webbed and scrammed and the DPS was enough to break the tank on 4 mission fit hardeners with two faction fit reppers.


Still not as hard as the last room on a 10/10 or wandering around a SOV system shouting your location and that the SOV holders may infact be homosexual into local.

I want to pose serious questions:


Was it ever the intent of the game designers for such a pimped ship to ever exist?

Was it the intent of the game design for there to be so many officer modules existing or is this a product of botting?


Is this the "only way" or an end game in ship fittings, to have such a shiney ship? How much better than an all Tech 2 layout is this in tanking and DPS?

Is the advantage of such a shiny pimp fit so much greater than a all T2 setup to justify the cost or is the cost of the modules due to a high market demand and if the latter, is this because or rarity or is it the ISK payout of incursions coupled with the demand for "VG blitzing" fittings for said incursions?


I am wondering about this because even if I could fit such a ship, I cannot think of a reason to really want to unless I was an alliance overlord and wanted to make a statement with this setup as a "Flag Ship" - but would only do so with the best logistical and tactical support!


Edit: I do have a Navy Comet full of hardeners similar to that expensive ship, but that's from 2 years worth of the occasional exploration escalation yielding such modules and I am too lazy to sell stuff off. It's no super frigate but for experiments I find it can handle level 3 missions well and never got below 60 percent armor using one Shadow Serpy repper.

To Herzog: you are simply not rich. Sorry. Why? Wait for a moment....

For example let's say your wallet is 2-3 billions. And occasionally you need to run lvl1 somewhere is the ass of an universe. So you are buying new ship. T1 frigate or T2? T1 frigate + stuff is like 1 million (for example), T2 ship is like 20 millions. Cheapest T1 frigate is 50k, the most expensive - 500k ISK. Your choice?

I'm 99.99% sure you will simply buy "the best" instead of reading characteristics, checking slots, etc.... There is not so big difference in skills/ISKies to even bother.

And now imagine you have like 500billions (i've seen some people saying they have it in forums). And you are buying stuff for lazy lvl4 running. Your choice? Reasonable analysys, EFT-warrioring, careful reading and processing mission info, buying "the most cheap" stuff over the universe?

Eh. Who cares? The idiot bought it, flew it, and lost it. Someone got really happy with the drop. The rest of us got a nice moment of schadenfreude.

EVE is working as intended.

My questions are serious. I don't care about how people feel.


My problem with that now dead ship is, after 35 billion ISK, it's still a battle ship and a destructable battle ship. Why even bother in the first place?

It's like a Porche that occasionally turns up in the parking lot next to where I work, it's a 160 thousand dollar car, but I can't help but think "after all that money, it's still just a car".

i'm not as rich as some people....
However i used to run Rogue Drone hordes in my Nyx. Just for fun. You know it's funny: Nyx starts to need its primary tank (armor) only after 3-4 horde in a row. Passive shield amount and regen is simply toooooo strong

I used to run 10/10 escalations with my Tengu(4-5 billions in stuff) + Machariel (2-3 billions) + Nightmare (1-2 billions). Was i needing all those ISKies? Nope. At all. I just made fit which fits into my tasks and used it. Many times i wanted to check if i can replace something in tengu (Gist-X type fitted tank) to make it less expensive. But.... Every time it is too lazy to try and risk.

Sometime ISKies aren't so important......

Sorry- right. EVE is real man! I was there!
lolz.

Yeah, I ran a few sanctums/havens in a Wyvern once. Rats didn't even break the passive recharge :D Was ridiculously boring though, I ended up giving up anomalies and just doing exploration purely because I couldn't sit down and do them for more than an hour at a time.

Anomalies and dead space sites differ somewhat to mission running though, if you've got any sense you'll be running anomalies in a system that doesn't have any blues you don't know in and dead space... well, it's gated. It isn't hard to stick an alt on the gate. Running around high sec in a 36 billion ISK ship with an active wardec however, that kind of stupidity isn't even in the same league as sticking a bit of x-type on your plexing fits

Besides, 5 or 6 billion isn't a great amount. Hell, you can make a billion or more clearing a single c3 if you take the time to find a decent one. And if you're in a decent alliance that controls an entire region you can earn 5-6b in a day pretty easily with exploration, just by systematically scanning, jumping in ships and blitzing sites.

In comparison 36 billion ISK on a ship means that if you ever do lose the ship, it probably isn't going to have paid for itself. Especially not if you were using it to run level fours.