Ships & Modules

o/ all, its just come to my attention that projectiles don't currently have a close range ammo with the most damage based on Kinetic. As currently we have Emp, Phased Plasma and Fusion doing mostly EM, Therm and Explosive but wheres our kinetic, at the moment we have Titanium Sabot as our most Kinetic ammo but thats a mid range ammo which if you do some EFTing on a target, that say for example guristas you do more damage with phased plasma which is a Thermic based ammo than the kinetic based ammo that is Titanium Sabot which to me is kinda dumb.

When pvping in a ship with projectiles as im sure pvp pilots will back me up, you carry the following Phased plasma, EMP, fusion and barrage and sometimes Hail which is again a explosive based ammo. Also all pvp pilots know that if you go up against minni ships they are normally most vulnerable against kinetic ammo due to there low base shields and kinetic resists and normally there explosive hole is filled, which is why drakes normally beat hurricanes, a new damage ammo could be useful

So what I was thinking is if ccp could think towards releasing a CLOSE range kinetic ammo, something on the lines off blunt force

Not sure if serious, if yes, then lol

Interesting fact... Guristas are weak against both Kinetic AND Thermal damage. Phased Plasma deals both. Titanium Sabot deals Explosive (primarily) and Kinetic (secondarily).


... wat? Calling "troll" on this one.

True they are but weaker more too kinetic and please learn your ammo's before commenting prim damage of titanium is kinetic but with very little damage.[/quote]

im not whining at all... and caldari doesn't always = kinetic, there just best with it, as for lasers and blasters they both have there advantages that being can swap quickly between any range instantly and blasters have the most dps. Im just saying that projectiles have mid and long range kinetic based ammo but no short range ammo when it comes to kinetic.

And you can actually shoot kinetic, just not with the same damage. Exact same thing. I would highly recommend thinking your arguments though before you post them, although I'm suspecting you don't actually know what you're talking about. By the way, if you're even considering making a comparison between projectiles and lasers/hybrids saying that projectiles are in any way inferior, you should just log off the forums right now and save yourself another embarrassment. The lack of close range kinetic ammo for projectiles doesn't in any way compare to the handicaps on the other races.

Winmatar and their weapons do not need any more boosts, they are already far ahead of others. Such changes would have any meaning only if other weapon systems would be brought in line with projectiles and their versatility.

Interesting idea, but it won't work in your implementation because 3/4 of weapon systems would become thermal-based and winmatar will be the only exception therefore making them even stronger.

You guys seem to be taking it very easy on the OP.

When I read the thread title I thought: "Oh ****.... this is gonna be messy!"

3/4




or, three out of four ain't bad. Damage types, that is. :)

It's called Phased Plasma, get used to it.