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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Orator de Umbras
Doomheim
#4101 - 2012-04-05 18:17:10 UTC
The things I posted are things to draw capsuleers out of their pods in the first place.

I mentioned them because many have reasoned that they have no use for WiS because they can do everything without even entering the Captain's Quarters.

Interaction with NPCs in stations is the only thing CCP can reliably script. Interaction between player characters should be spontaneous, and dependent on "fun" things like gambling.

For the old "eve is a spaceship game" argument, CCP has conceded that they need to focus more on the space-ship side of things until WiS is ready, but they also want an all emersive Science Fiction simulator. The best thing we can do, is give them suggestions about the things we would like to see, while not in space.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#4102 - 2012-04-05 18:33:48 UTC
So did anyone notice a jovian male and female at the end of the ccp presents?

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#4103 - 2012-04-05 19:44:24 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
So did anyone notice a jovian male and female at the end of the ccp presents?


I don't know what video are you talking about, and in case i knew, sure would be easier if you just linked it yourself *wink, wink*.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4104 - 2012-04-05 19:57:55 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
So did anyone notice a jovian male and female at the end of the ccp presents?


I don't know what video are you talking about, and in case i knew, sure would be easier if you just linked it yourself *wink, wink*.

This
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4105 - 2012-04-05 20:05:50 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
So did anyone notice a jovian male and female at the end of the ccp presents?


uhm ... i recall people talking about balded female avatars with dark veins that "looked like jove".
That's quite a while ago already and it was on sisi. never checked if it made it to TQ.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#4106 - 2012-04-05 20:16:51 UTC
Took me a while to figure it out how to code a time stamp in the whole thing.

here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Ozvef7CvQ&t=2h13m41s

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#4107 - 2012-04-05 20:26:03 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Took me a while to figure it out how to code a time stamp in the whole thing.

here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Ozvef7CvQ&t=2h13m41s



Houm... weird, but, Jovian? They are supposed to have got massive heads on tiny body frames, yellow skin and yellowish eyes.

Also adding Jovian to the game would be the end of EVE.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#4108 - 2012-04-05 20:30:26 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
Took me a while to figure it out how to code a time stamp in the whole thing.

here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Ozvef7CvQ&t=2h13m41s



Houm... weird, but, Jovian? They are supposed to have got massive heads on tiny body frames, yellow skin and yellowish eyes.

Also adding Jovian to the game would be the end of EVE.


Read my other thread Inherit the Stars on GD.

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Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4109 - 2012-04-05 20:51:00 UTC
Seeing as this is being monitored, I'd just like to say, please have "standard" fps/mmo controls for avatars. The way the mouselook/steer works at the moment is just weird.

Other than that, glad to hear this is still gestating at CCP. I have been thoroughly in favour of the re-focussing, but ultimately EVE has to have WiS too, if it is to be planet Earth's ultimate space game Big smile
HELIC0N ONE
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4110 - 2012-04-05 22:48:15 UTC  |  Edited by: HELIC0N ONE
Orator de Umbras wrote:
The things I posted are things to draw capsuleers out of their pods in the first place.

The things you posted are things which take away basic functionality from the existing client in order to ram WiS down the throat of the entire playerbase whether they want it or not. That is a tremendously stupid approach to take to game design and exactly the sort of attitude which gave us the Jita Riots last summer.

There is no reason whatsoever why I should need to switch to a completely different game mode just to access features previously available with a single button press.

Quote:
For the old "eve is a spaceship game" argument, CCP has conceded that they need to focus more on the space-ship side of things until WiS is ready

Er no, CCP has acknowledged that Eve is and will always be a game primarily about spaceships and that needs to be the primary focus in every expansion now and for as long as there's an Eve to work on. This was spelled out fairly clearly in the Eve Keynote. Any work on WiS needs to be based on ways of making it work alongside spaceships and adding meaningful gameplay to supplement what happens in spaceships. Developing two effectively seperate games in the same client and having them clash against each other for the player's attention (by, for example, stealing away hangar features to the WiS client and forcing the player to switch between the two to access them) is a recipe for frustration and disaster.
Lane Shift
Doomheim
#4111 - 2012-04-05 23:35:44 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.

"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. "

I don't agree, we certainly do want FiS but that doesn't mean we don't wasn more WiS. I think a lot of us do! And leaving WiS as single player prison cell CQ is a reminder that CCP can't keep its promises. The interview makes it clear there is no plan in the works or even being discussed to take WiS beyond the prison cell.

So if you wanted WiS please post in this thread because I think a lot of us want CCP to deliver more of what they have promised use for years now.

DO NOT ABANDON WiS!!
LET US OUT THAT DOOR!!!!

Issler


wuts wis, and fis for that matter
Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4112 - 2012-04-05 23:56:33 UTC
i see ppl saying things like "make us have to wis to do X"like update clone in a medbay or talk to agents this i dont agree with i think it should be more like if u want to do those things you should be abel to do it remotely have both options so i can wis and experience eve that way if i want to or i can stay in my ship and never have to get out also we should not have to dock so we can tell an agent "hey mission is done pay me *****" re should be able to do this by region and remotely
Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4113 - 2012-04-05 23:58:17 UTC
Lane Shift wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.

"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. "

I don't agree, we certainly do want FiS but that doesn't mean we don't wasn more WiS. I think a lot of us do! And leaving WiS as single player prison cell CQ is a reminder that CCP can't keep its promises. The interview makes it clear there is no plan in the works or even being discussed to take WiS beyond the prison cell.

So if you wanted WiS please post in this thread because I think a lot of us want CCP to deliver more of what they have promised use for years now.

DO NOT ABANDON WiS!!
LET US OUT THAT DOOR!!!!

Issler


wuts wis, and fis for that matter


wis is walkin in station and fis is flyin in ships
Richard Aiel
The Merchants of War
#4114 - 2012-04-06 00:34:49 UTC
wis is crap they threw together for World of Darkness and FiS is EVE

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/buddahcjcc/SOA-3-2.jpg

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4115 - 2012-04-06 00:52:59 UTC
Richard Aiel wrote:
wis is crap they threw together for World of Darkness and FiS is EVE

You aren't going to get much love in this thread with that **** poor ignorant attitude.

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Richard Aiel
The Merchants of War
#4116 - 2012-04-06 01:02:57 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
wis is crap they threw together for World of Darkness and FiS is EVE

You aren't going to get much love in this thread with that **** poor ignorant attitude.


Ooooor I could find that news article from the WoD site that showed WiS was a prototype for WoD?

http://www.wodnews.net/Home/tabid/41/ctl/ArticleView/mid/401/articleId/69/New-WoD-MMO-info-from-The-Grand-Masquerade-UPDATED.aspx

Quote:
Incarna is actually considered a prototype, the rendering engine that will ship with the MMO will be much more advanced.


**** poor ignorant truth you mean?

Hey Ive linked it before, in this thread but Im not going back a hundred or so pages to comb thru it

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/buddahcjcc/SOA-3-2.jpg

RAP ACTION HERO
#4117 - 2012-04-06 02:14:20 UTC
Orator de Umbras wrote:
The things I posted are things to draw capsuleers out of their pods in the first place.

I mentioned them because many have reasoned that they have no use for WiS because they can do everything without even entering the Captain's Quarters.

Interaction with NPCs in stations is the only thing CCP can reliably script. Interaction between player characters should be spontaneous, and dependent on "fun" things like gambling.

For the old "eve is a spaceship game" argument, CCP has conceded that they need to focus more on the space-ship side of things until WiS is ready, but they also want an all emersive Science Fiction simulator. The best thing we can do, is give them suggestions about the things we would like to see, while not in space.

They have no use for wis because ccp couldn't figure it out, why is doing everything without entering CQ a bad thing?

vitoc erryday

Sinooko
Tharumec
Gespenster Kompanie
#4118 - 2012-04-06 03:50:00 UTC
I want to run an establishment that allows for a great deal of gambling out in a nullsec station. I also want a lever that I can pull that freezes everything for when a Call to Arms is sent through alliance channels.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#4119 - 2012-04-06 03:52:20 UTC
Sinooko wrote:
I want to run an establishment that allows for a great deal of gambling out in a nullsec station. I also want a lever that I can pull that freezes everything for when a Call to Arms is sent through alliance channels.


I want to hawk Livestockburgers and Exotic Dancers.

Establishments should open up props for portraits, too.

But make it about buffs, make it about the spaceships.

And yes, make it so you can close them down at will. We need to be able to show one or all players the door in our establishments. This is a must.

Edit: Support my proposal in the F&I section!!!

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4120 - 2012-04-06 07:44:30 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Richard Aiel wrote:
first post:
#1 Posted: 2011.10.24 19:51
206 pages six months or so

My apology Mittens thread:
#1 Posted: 2012.03.27 00:09
254 pages 9 days



lol Mittens wins


First of all, the 2 threads don't relate to each other nor do they have anything in common.

Secondly, there's been multiple replies deleted from this thread resulting in a lower page count so your point is invalid. Also this thread has a much longer thread life and will still be going strong long after the apology thread is dead and forgotten.

Third, stop trying to derail this thread. Your reply is off topic and nothing more than a troll post. It's obvious your intention is to create a flame war. As such your reply is now reported. If you continue posting off topic replies in this thread, I as well as others, will use the 'Report' option every time.

Richard Aiel wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
wis is crap they threw together for World of Darkness and FiS is EVE

You aren't going to get much love in this thread with that **** poor ignorant attitude.


Ooooor I could find that news article from the WoD site that showed WiS was a prototype for WoD?

http://www.wodnews.net/Home/tabid/41/ctl/ArticleView/mid/401/articleId/69/New-WoD-MMO-info-from-The-Grand-Masquerade-UPDATED.aspx

Quote:
Incarna is actually considered a prototype, the rendering engine that will ship with the MMO will be much more advanced.


**** poor ignorant truth you mean?

Hey Ive linked it before, in this thread but Im not going back a hundred or so pages to comb thru it

Vertisce Soritenshi is correct, you're not going to get much love in this thread. Your whole posted reply is incorrect and shows just exactly how ignorant you really are..

That's not an Official CCP web site and it's not an Official CCP statement.
That statement is simply conjecture based on hearsay. Note key word : Considered
That whole story is a negative biased opinion based on hearsay and conjecture.
Incarna is the name of an expansion, not the name of the rendering engine used to create Avatars in Eve.

FYI - You would be wise to tread lightly and make sure you don't cross any lines. CCP is now being very diligent with forum moderation and enforcing rules due to the recent FF fiasco. Just remember, Big Brother is watching.