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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#21 - 2012-04-05 16:32:02 UTC
Richard Aiel wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.

Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ...


or so the ppl on the forums cant rebuke the argument and take in into game, punishing the character/corp/alliance for what he said out of game


(kinda sounds familiar really)



In other words a player can shoot their mouth off and not have to face the consequences of their actions. Case in point: The quote in the OP was directed at an alt who is calling out pvp'rs and calling them losers, and yet he hides behind anonymity while doing so. Do you see the irony in such an action?

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Vetorept Fera
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-04-05 16:40:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Vetorept Fera
Solstice Project wrote:
Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.

Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ...


Ridicule and punishment?

Cyber-bullying??

Essentially, someone who says: Rawr poast with yer main! Is saying- I disagree/ don't like your viewpoint, I wish I knew who you were so I can ridicule or punish you for your viewpoint, I also wish I knew what corp or alliance you are affiliated with so I can attribute your comment/ viewpoint to that entire body and ridicule/ punish them as well if I am able. Or if possible, troll them hard enough to expell you from their space guild so your ridicule and punishment will be complete.

Because I disagree with/ don't like your viewpoint.

In pace requiescat
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#23 - 2012-04-05 16:41:12 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Most alliances have some standards. In order to uphold them, most discourage their members posting in this cesspit on their mains. It's kind of like local smack.

I've seen plenty of people getting kicked and kicked some myself for shitposting on their mains because it reflects badly on the entire alliance.



This I can agree with. In fact IEEE has one standing order, "If you do or say something, be prepared to back it up". We at the IEEE also try to uphold this basic rule in life with other corps which has led to some interesting blogs such as the Joe Pheonix saga. As it turns out the poor man just didn't know when to stop.

But yes, a good alliance should watch what their members are saying on the forums. And believe it or not, but good comments on occasion can be rewarding.

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#24 - 2012-04-05 16:49:11 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Most alliances have some standards. In order to uphold them, most discourage their members posting in this cesspit on their mains. It's kind of like local smack.

I've seen plenty of people getting kicked and kicked some myself for shitposting on their mains because it reflects badly on the entire alliance.

...yah. You wouldn't want anyone to think you were morons. Big smile

Signatures should be used responsibly...
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-04-05 16:51:48 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Ever heard the phrase "You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk"?


How about this phrase:

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

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Large Collidable Object
morons.
#26 - 2012-04-05 16:55:45 UTC
Gogela wrote:
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Most alliances have some standards. In order to uphold them, most discourage their members posting in this cesspit on their mains. It's kind of like local smack.

I've seen plenty of people getting kicked and kicked some myself for shitposting on their mains because it reflects badly on the entire alliance.

...yah. You wouldn't want anyone to think you were morons. Big smile



Well - this is my posting main with its own posting corp.

LCO total SP: 64k, morons. member count: 1.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#27 - 2012-04-05 17:32:47 UTC
This is my main and I will post willy nilly with him. He is my internet spaceship persona except for my corpies that know me in RL.

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game
Sugar Von MurdererTits
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#28 - 2012-04-05 17:36:36 UTC
This is my main alt.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#29 - 2012-04-05 17:47:32 UTC
Damn those forum alts to hell!

What is the world coming to?

Mr Epeen Cool
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#30 - 2012-04-05 17:57:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Xercodo
I am a main, that is all.

edit: damnit, I got this dirty chill like i had said "I am a mage".....eww

The Drake is a Lie
Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
#31 - 2012-04-05 18:01:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Josefius
MeestaPenni wrote:
Lifted from a different thread...

Quote:
I'm guessing that's nowhere near as pathetic as a coward NPC alt ****-poasting this rubbish.


An Internet game where nearly everyone is using some kind of pseudonym, and this makes a difference how?


EVE is a sandbox, what you do has repercussions, you can't hide with name changes like in other MMOs. So, if you post on an anonymous alt, you're considered a coward.

You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life.

-Winston Churchill
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-04-05 18:38:06 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Most alliances have some standards. In order to uphold them, most discourage their members posting in this cesspit on their mains. It's kind of like local smack.

I've seen plenty of people getting kicked and kicked some myself for shitposting on their mains because it reflects badly on the entire alliance.


Standards. Heh.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-04-05 18:50:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.

Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ...


or so the ppl on the forums cant rebuke the argument and take in into game, punishing the character/corp/alliance for what he said out of game


(kinda sounds familiar really)



In other words a player can shoot their mouth off and not have to face the consequences of their actions. Case in point: The quote in the OP was directed at an alt who is calling out pvp'rs and calling them losers, and yet he hides behind anonymity while doing so. Do you see the irony in such an action?


DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Ever heard the phrase "You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk"?


How about this phrase:

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.


Micheal Dietrich:

This I can agree with. In fact IEEE has one standing order, "If you do or say something, be prepared to back it up".
(too many quotes)

so you agree Mittani should be banned then? Great

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-04-05 18:55:36 UTC
Josefius wrote:
MeestaPenni wrote:
Lifted from a different thread...

Quote:
I'm guessing that's nowhere near as pathetic as a coward NPC alt ****-poasting this rubbish.


An Internet game where nearly everyone is using some kind of pseudonym, and this makes a difference how?


EVE is a sandbox, what you do has repercussions, you can't hide with name changes like in other MMOs. So, if you post on an anonymous alt, you're considered a coward.


Right cause they cant go after you, or your corp or alliance and kill you for saying out of game things.
So you are a coward

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#35 - 2012-04-05 18:56:26 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:

so you agree Mittani should be banned then? Great



I remain neutral to the Mittani case, leaning heavily towards the do not care side of the scale.

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Orator de Umbras
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-04-05 19:00:30 UTC
*forum alt reporting in*

I used to not hide behind a forum alt, but then I watched a friend get burned by his alliance because they didn't like what he said on the forums. (It was an honest opinion, in my honest opinion.)

I also don't like to draw anymore attention to my main than I have to.
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#37 - 2012-04-05 19:00:30 UTC
This is my care bear
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#38 - 2012-04-05 19:02:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Simi Kusoni
People seem to be missing the primary purpose of NPC alts, it allows people to make an argument from authority despite not being an authority on any subject.

Example: NPC corp alt #20025 is arguing over null sec mechanics changes, he will inevitably claim to have been playing since 1984 and have over 9000 confirmed kills. Two sentences later he will demonstrate that he does not understand how bubbles work.

This is, sadly, not a rare occurrence. Calling for NPC corp alts to reveal their main in cases like these is not done to allow us the opportunity for in game reprisals, which quite simply are too much effort, it is done to get the idiots to shut the hell up and stop bad poasting.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-04-05 19:50:50 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
People seem to be missing the primary purpose of NPC alts, it allows people to make an argument from authority despite not being an authority on any subject.

Example: NPC corp alt #20025 is arguing over null sec mechanics changes, he will inevitably claim to have been playing since 1984 and have over 9000 confirmed kills. Two sentences later he will demonstrate that he does not understand how bubbles work.

This is, sadly, not a rare occurrence. Calling for NPC corp alts to reveal their main in cases like these is not done to allow us the opportunity for in game reprisals, which quite simply are too much effort, it is done to get the idiots to shut the hell up and stop bad poasting.


Granted that may happen once in a while but usually the sole purpose of wanting to know the main character is so they can exact some type of revenge, thus thinking they have won some great battle. After their revenge is completed, they'll usually post the killmail here in the forums in a vain attempt to cause humiliation. Those actions are intended to berate, demean and ultimately silence that player.

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Rivur'Tam
the united
#40 - 2012-04-05 19:56:44 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.

Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ...



true hey i see that spitfire stole ur sig too he is an ebil man

[b]Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire

^^ my sig was awesome that naugty spitfire stole it for himself true story

United Recruitment Director.[/b]