EVE General Discussion

People who actually played to win and put that effort in.

If you approve of PLEX for these reasons, you cannot disapprove of RMT. They are the same thing, except one is legal because it means CCP gets to line their pockets with more money and the other is illegal because it lines some chinese guy's pockets with more money and CCP hates being undercut.

The fact is, they should both be illegal. These are the practices (pay for virtual goods with real cash) that caused EA to be named worst company of the year.

Ahh, the "f" word. Fair. That word that conveniently divides the entire universe in two exactly where you want it to. Honestly no one gives a crap about what you think is "fair" and "unfair". In fact, I think YOUR view is pretty unfair. See what happens when you play with subjective terms that have absolutely no meaning? Suddenly you're on the wrong side, because I say you are. And now we can argue forever and never get anywhere.

So I'll ask again, if you see a player a sitting at a gate in a Mach, how can you that he bought that with a plex or with his own earned isk?

And what about the players who put in the effort to make their own isk, but use a portion of that isk to purchase a PLEX from a plex seller because they cannot afford the game by other means. If you want to talk about fairness then tell me how this would be fair to them. They are working hard like you after all.



They are the same thing eh.

Why haven't we heard stories about CCP hacking players computers and stealing their accounts to use as bots?

Why don't I receive an in game item from an isk bot that I can use to benefit not only myself but another player as well?

Why don't I get keyloggers and viruses when I log into my account page?

Why don't I see CCP Sreegs piloting 12 hulks clearing out my belts?



Citation please.

I also have a ton of other questions that are still left unanswered in this thread. Feel free to run through and wow us with your answers.

Facts.. rofl

The difference between PLEX and what EA, Turbine and other developers do with their cash store is they sell ITEMS, some of which can not be acquired in game and only be purchased via their stores.

Plex does not give you access to anything special. Plex only gives you game time (edited due to Tippa's post as it was a damn good point )

Yes PLEX is legal because nobodies humans rights are violated, no laws are broken, their is no connection to a criminal element that exists in gold farming.

Other methods of gaining Eve Online currency are illegal not because some person/company (mentioning the Chinese shows how little about RMT you know) because of the above things I have mentioned as well as other points.

Also the reason why EA was voted the worst company of the year was not just about their cash stores, but because they are god awful across the entire spectrum.

So you deny CCP revenue .. good for you.. I prefer PLEX since it brings more money to CCP.

I have not bothered reading all your posts, but you are supporting the OP, thus you are either supporting the idea of regulating plex-prices, or remove it completely, and my point still stands. Regulating the prices keeping them low is allowing more people to found their playtime with in-game currency. And you conveniently avoided answering my question. Now go practice some yoga and suck your own ****, you homosexual.

You avoided answering any of my questions yet again.

I'll give you another one since you don't believe that Plex gives you game time:

What does a player do with the Plex one they have purchased it with isk?

If they are smart they relist it at a higher price

Well there's you first mistake. As you've just witnessed, it's not entirely wise to respond to someone's statements when you haven't even read them and obviously have not taken the time to try understanding them. Now I wonder: in your case, is this the result of stupidity or just laziness?



It's better to admit you were wrong in the first place than to try employing bad logic to retroactively justify your mistake and save face - and in so doing make yourself look incredibly obtuse. So far all I've debated is the idea that PLEX is a form of P2W. I have made no judgements or proscriptions of P2W or PLEX. In fact, I have not stated my own opinion on the matter of P2W and whether PLEX should be removed or regulated at all. And you would have known this if you'd read any of my posts. So again: Your mistake. Your ego won't let you apologize, but I forgive you anyway because I'm a nice guy and I believe in second chances.



There's no point in getting upset, boy. Remember, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". You could have avoided looking like an idiot and turning yourself into my biyatch by understanding what I was saying before responding and easing up on the assumptions. This is all entirely your own fault; don't be mad at me. You want to be my little boytoy - who am I to say no?