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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#1 - 2012-04-04 22:56:39 UTC
http://pastebin.com/mCYEhc4G

Drone region truesec nerfs (it was abnormally high before), a handful of new modules, and perhaps most importantly, removal of Datacore RP costs, in keeping with CCP's stated desire to move them to Factional Warfare and make them more expensive.


Enjoy.

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Ohh Yeah
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#2 - 2012-04-04 23:56:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Ohh Yeah
Edit: Woah nevermind

sorry~
Zitus
NON PROPERO
#3 - 2012-04-05 00:45:20 UTC
Shield boosters using charges as an option for power?

o_O
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-04-05 00:46:41 UTC
Zitus wrote:
o_O



that pretty much sums it up :P

interresting changes
Brock Nelson
#5 - 2012-04-05 01:07:24 UTC
I wouldn't invest in Hydrogen Batteries

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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#6 - 2012-04-05 01:09:50 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
I wouldn't invest in Hydrogen Batteries


Note: This man always trolls.

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Adunh Slavy
#7 - 2012-04-05 01:16:25 UTC
Zitus wrote:
Shield boosters using charges as an option for power?



Seems to be just that one kind of new shiled booster. If it works out, who knows, might be expanded to other things in the future.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-05 01:27:50 UTC
You forgot TDs affecting missile explosion velocity by -20%

Do I have the new shield booster correct?

4s cycle time +195 hp shield boosted, requires 190 cap or 1 hydrogen battery (when scripted)
100 cpu 150 power grid
med slot with a +10% str and -15% cycle time overheat stats (same as other shield boosters)

To compare, a T1 large shield booster has the same fitting requirements, for +180 shield hp for 160 cap, T2 LSB runs you +240 hp for 160 cap

New booster = shield hp/sec between meta 1 and meta 2 module but can be run without cap. Not sure which I'd rather go with, I get neuted a lot but I usually run with cap injectors.

Hydrogen Batteries cost 504 isk and take up 1m3 atm.

Warning, Hydrogen Batteries could most likely be a placeholder item for the real fuel item.
Claire Voyant
#9 - 2012-04-05 01:39:11 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Zitus wrote:
Shield boosters using charges as an option for power?


Seems to be just that one kind of new shield booster. If it works out, who knows, might be expanded to other things in the future.

I'm pretty sure that was mentioned in the "Brave New Modules" (if that is the correct cutesy name) talk at fanfest.
Adunh Slavy
#10 - 2012-04-05 01:49:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Adunh Slavy
Claire Voyant wrote:
I'm pretty sure that was mentioned in the "Brave New Modules" (if that is the correct cutesy name) talk at fanfest.



Yeah I recall that. This shield booster was the only one mentioned that had any sort of charges. We may see more in the future. Doing it with scripts also allows the possibility for multiple types of functionality that could potentially be changed on the fly and different kinds of charges. May help break up some predictability in PVP.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#11 - 2012-04-05 02:27:37 UTC
corestwo wrote:
perhaps most importantly, removal of Datacore RP costs, in keeping with CCP's stated desire to move them to Factional Warfare and make them more expensive.


Yeah, that's a major mistake on CCP's part.

Reception to that idea has been pretty negative from both sides (the industrialists and the FW folks).
Brock Nelson
#12 - 2012-04-05 02:36:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Brock Nelson
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
corestwo wrote:
perhaps most importantly, removal of Datacore RP costs, in keeping with CCP's stated desire to move them to Factional Warfare and make them more expensive.


Yeah, that's a major mistake on CCP's part.

Reception to that idea has been pretty negative from both sides (the industrialists and the FW folks).


There's no information on whether or not the DC that will be supplied by FW LP stores will be sufficent or insufficient to cover what RP was producing.

Edit: Either way, T2 BPO will win in the short term. Long term? That remains to be seen until the above question is answered.

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Minmat Sebtin
House of Sebtin
#13 - 2012-04-05 03:45:28 UTC
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#14 - 2012-04-05 03:47:37 UTC
It has nothing to do with whether FW can meet the demand. It's more a question of:

- What do FW corps have to do with R&D?

What common sense / lore reason is there for the NPC R&D corps not to be the ones who sell datacores? Even selling the starship datacores through FW stores is a bit hinky.

Why should all of those people who ground out standing with the R&D corps be thrown to the curb?
Brock Nelson
#15 - 2012-04-05 03:52:14 UTC
CCP needs to come out and state what they intend to do about datacore production. I find it hard to believe that they're about to wipe out an entire industry that's dedicated to datacore production without having to compensate the players for having to train for useless skill or even missioned in order to access the R&D agent.

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Adunh Slavy
#16 - 2012-04-05 04:44:45 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
CCP needs to come out and state what they intend to do about datacore production. I find it hard to believe that they're about to wipe out an entire industry that's dedicated to datacore production without having to compensate the players for having to train for useless skill or even missioned in order to access the R&D agent.



Hopefully they add something new to the build process. Then they can get the financial incentive from FW DCs that they are after, according to the Soundwave interview on tenton. Currnet R&D types could then continue on with this new thing.

It could also be that R&D will be useful in this idea they have about 'seasons'. Perhaps these new BPCs will be coming from research agents.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Skye Aurorae
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-04-05 15:43:35 UTC
corestwo wrote:
http://pastebin.com/mCYEhc4G

Drone region truesec nerfs (it was abnormally high before), a handful of new modules, and perhaps most importantly, removal of Datacore RP costs, in keeping with CCP's stated desire to move them to Factional Warfare and make them more expensive.


Enjoy.

And by abnormally high you mean abnormally low right

Skye Aurora is a 7 year old Girl Who Wants to be on the CSM! Unfortunately, the Lawyers say you have to be 21 - oh well.
Raven Ether
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-04-05 16:28:55 UTC
"removal of Datacore RP costs"

This makes no sense, you're saying that we can buy as much as datacores we want, as they cost nothing.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#19 - 2012-04-05 16:46:06 UTC  |  Edited by: corestwo
Raven Ether wrote:
"removal of Datacore RP costs"

This makes no sense, you're saying that we can buy as much as datacores we want, as they cost nothing.


I'm saying that the pastebin indicates removal of the RP cost but does not yet have any indication of the new method by which they will be obtained.

Skye Aurorae wrote:
corestwo wrote:
http://pastebin.com/mCYEhc4G

Drone region truesec nerfs (it was abnormally high before), a handful of new modules, and perhaps most importantly, removal of Datacore RP costs, in keeping with CCP's stated desire to move them to Factional Warfare and make them more expensive.


Enjoy.

And by abnormally high you mean abnormally low right

Oops

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Claire Voyant
#20 - 2012-04-05 17:15:33 UTC
Soundwave said in that tentonhammer interview that they will be reducing the amount of datacores you can get for RP with the patch and reducing the amount of RP you get per day, but the presumption is that datacores will rise in value. (He said he is turning in his RP before the patch from the 15 agents he and his alts work with, because he is no dummy.) So more of a shift than a complete change. He also had some interesting ideas for how datacores might balance FW. He actually expressed a desire to see FW break (Caldari becoming dominant) to see if datacores would rebalance it (give support to the other factions.) Pretty obvious he is just playing God.