EVE General Discussion

Somebody can't afford his own plex.

I pay for my account like a good subscriber because I work for my isk and want to keep it.

What's unfair about it? I never read anywhere that converting GTC to Plex and alternativly selling Plex was only allowed for certain players.
It would be unfair if the Plex sale was only for certain individuals.

I pay for my account like a 'good' subscriber as well. I also pay for several other peoples account who otherwise may or may not be able to play a game due to their own tight budget. They thank me by paying me in isk. The company gets paid, I get paid, and somebody gets to play. Sounds like the triangle of win to me.

Even worse than ignorance is when people make up convoluted, ad-hoc definitions of things to fit their arguments.

Whether you by the item directly from CCP or indirectly via the middleman of a PLEX, it is still paying real money for an in-game advantage. Therefore, it is P2W.

End of story.

*snip* Please keep it civil. Spitfire

Preach it!

If I was to buy PLEX, I would feel I was cheating my toon.

My toon worked hard for his Isk. To just take it away is wrong for the poor dude. He'd probably sue me for racism or something.

ISK does not garauntee "Win".
PLEX-selling ISK is not different than normal-earned ISK.
And earning ISK is a competitive challenge (can be, though), it's just time-consuming.
The day CCP sells something that can't be attained through ingame methods in any way, that's P2W.
We could even draw the line onto "Not produce-able in game, better than it's normal correspective" and still sellable on market (That giving an effective advantage would depend on the players - if the $$-bought thing is readily avaiable, then who cares where it spawns; if it's hilariously costly, AND has no do-good on the economy, perhaps...)

PLEX is just a way to trade one's money into another's time. And both sides are happy enough to keep the agreement.

Also, ISK is not power. It's not like MD united could blow ten trillions and gain control of a meangingful portion of 0.0.
In another game, you call someone in the best avaiable gear (not righfully earned) going around PVPing a cheater.
in EVE, you call someone going around in Officier gear and Vindicator, doing small-scale pvp.. a pinata. With a giant "shoot me for goodies" painted on it.

And a plex is simply another commodity for some people. As I said, some people out there may live on a pretty tight budget in RL, but suppose they do quite well at the market games. Would they really miss the 485 mil. Most people have already summarized that this can be earn in 20 hours or less which is only a half a work week by normal standards. This means that the rest of the months expenses go straight to the player.
You obviously do not have a need to by a plex, but suppose you received several bills, say maybe to a medical issue, that would cause you to give up some luxuries. Would you simply give up the game then even though you still the option to play it?

PLEX is not pay to win.

It's pay to skip working for the ISK to buy that titan.
It's pay to buy a titan pilot to fly it.
It's pay to fill your wallet while doing nothing.
It's pay in lieu of grind.

I guess we're all fine with that except me.

Mr Epeen