Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Sounds like a cool idea

Only problem I see is what happens in high sec? Places like Jita where possibly hundreds of ships are undocking at the same time. Impossible to avoid damaging your ship

currently they do not even collide in Jita let alone do damage. Just having bumping in Jita would be hilarious

Then again if collision is disabled in Jita then damage from bumping would also not be a problem

Would bumping be considered aggression in high sec if it did damage? Or should it be disabled in high sec like bumping in Jita?

This will unfortunately never happen. Why?

It would require a complete and total re-design of the EVE code to the point that the DEVs would simply have to start over from scratch. There is NO WAY to implement this in the engine that already exists. I believe that work-arounds for placed like Jita could be found easily; however, it'll never happen considering the engine that is currently in the game.

That said, I would LOVE to see a frigate not pay attention, fly into the side of a freighter, and just go *poof*

that would be amazing....

and on another note, it would also be hilarious to see a drunk aussie flying his hound accidentally drift intot he side of an Ark off jita and kersplode along with all the bombs in his cargohold causing a chain reaction making the entire area go *poof*. would definetly be interesting to see EvE university try and make some "eve traffic laws" for high sec to cut down on the "unintantional DUI incidents"

IIRC there is a lore page about why ships don't damage each other.

Actually this sounds like it'd fix blobbing perfectly. If you bring SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many alpha maelstroms to a fight that they are bouncing around like a bunch of metal scraps in a tumble dryer then yeah they should take a bit of damage. This would force people to spread out a bit and add some tactical landscape to the fight rather than just two points in space each with 1000 dudes crammed on them.

As far as being hard to code I could definitely see that being an issue. EXCEPT that they already have the bumping code in place. Two ships going two speeds at two different angles with two different masses can collide with one another and bounce off each other. That's a lot of math going on already just fine.. It wouldn't be too hard to add a bit of damage tot hat formula.

The one BIG problem with collision damage is what happens in highsec. How is the game going to tell the difference between an accidental collision and collision ganking. Imagine someone taking a beefy battleship, like a max tanked dominix or typhoon or something, and then using it to go bowling through the jita undock. A triple trimarked, fully plated, and hardened dominix can take a few 5,000 hp hits and be just fine. But that's enough damage to pop most haulers.

Lets just add a kamikaze command. With this command a ships properties like mass, volume ect. and its movement details will be calculated into pure damage of all types.

But on the other side I think it is a bad idea after all. Ppl would just use cheap ships to fly into their opponents instead of shooting them. It means collision damage would lead us to destruction derby like bumbing battles where guns are completly overrated. Nano-BCs with 100MN MWDs, keep in mind that a 100MN MWD adds 5.000 tons to the mass, would just fly into each other to create a massive rampage. Would that be fun? I would rather like to blast my opponent back into his/her pod where he/she came from.

***SCIENCE WARNING***

The reason that two ships don't do damage in a bump now is because of the Shields.

Two forces of the same exact type can have the ability to cancel each other out or repel one another.

Two shields (which are basically electromagnetic force fields) hit eachother, and bounce the ships away because they are repeling each other. The two shields polarize, and repel, much like two south poles on two magnets repel each other. There is nothing there to penetrate either shield as it is just two electromagnetic fields pushing eachother away.

The reason why bullets, missles, rockets, shells, charges, bombs, and laser beams (kinda obvious on the last one there) DON'T bounce off, is because they are not polarizing the field with a field of their own because these devices do not have a shield field to project.

It is a good thing your shield bounces you off of other ships, in reality, the shield would have been created to stop bullets from killing you, a side effect of this is the airbags and seat belts it basically replicates to keep your ship from splattering you all over the side of a station like a Mig in a tail spin during the Vietnam War.

Not to mention it would be a real pain in the tail to have just bought and fitted a 3 billion ISK ship, ride out of the station, and have the Jita traffic jam splatter it into a fire ball even before your station exiting screen downloaded and hit your computers processors.

You can't fly like an aircraft simulator in EVE Online, THAT alone is one of the best reasons I can give for a NO to your OP; simply put, you can't fly AROUND anything else, thus you would never leave the station because you would blow up on the first glitchy broken pixel you saw.

All collisions are accidents until proven otherwise. Problem solved

Excellent idea. There should be several different size modules for this so you could sacrifice a smaller ship to damage a bigger ship.

It would also probably cost you a titan, since both sides get damaged in the collision.