EVE New Citizens Q&A

It won't take longer.

The only things with affect training times are:
1: Attributes. You can remap these once a year (it's possible to do it more often if you have free remaps. You won't yet). Don't do this lightly, but if you work out a training plan for the year, you can adjust your stats to be more optimal. Evemon is handy here.
2: Implants. These adjust attributes, but are destroyed if your capsule is blown up. They also can't be removed without being destroyed.

Both are good ideas, but watch what you're doing.


The only other side effect is, the more skillpoints you have, the more expensive your clone will become. So someone that's all over the place will probably have a more expensive clone than someone that's tightly focused on one area, matching their abilities there. (that will be a newer character, however)

Thanks Steve.
I believe that I used a 'Bonus Remap' already and that there are two free re-maps still available. So I should probably attempt to focus myself.

Thanks for the answers.

In my opinion there is nothing worth having in EvE that doesn't come with that kind of fear. A work around to the implant issue is to have Jump Clones, these are seperate "bodies" which will have their own set of implants in each. Put your high end implants in your main one and then jump to a pvp clone which will have cheaper implants for when there is pew pew to be had.

Also keep in mind that jump clones are different from medical clones, you have to pay for them only once and you will need sufficient standing with the NPC corp that you want to buy them from. However, there are some player corps out there which have that kind of standing and if you have no standing at all with their chosen NPC corp you will be able to take advantage of that and buy one. Once you buy a jump clone you will still need to replace and keep up to date your medical clone.

Jump clones make great "fast travel" points allowing you to move around New eden in a blink of an eye but only once every 24 hours.

Whether you specialize or not is your choice, and you can always change your mind later without penalties.

I like to call myself a jack-of-all-trades, though I am biased towards Caldari ships (I can't help it, I like missiles). I'm currently training Destroyers 5; despite the fact that I can pilot capitals, I never bothered to train Destroyers until now, and there is no penalty in doing that so late in my career. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Tau_Cabalander

Being specialized pro: you become an expert at something faster.
Being specialized con: you can do less than a non-specialized plan.

Skills train at the same speed regardless of how many skill points you have. Training speed is based on your attributes and any attribute implants. Skills have a primary attribute and a secondary attribute (see the skill info).

Skill Points Per Hour = ((Primary Attribute + Implant Bonus) + (Secondary Attribute + Implant Bonus) / 2) * 60

Note that training levels 1 through 4 takes about 20% of the time of training level 5, yet gives you 80% of the advantages.

I train all skills to level 2, and only train them further if they are useful to me. I only tain level 5 for the skills that I deem are really important to me, or are prerequitistes for another skill I want. Level 4 is plenty for most skills.

Easy... easy... not too crazy either, or you end up with SP all over the place.

Unfocused training, is training a bit of everything, having your fingers in various different occupations. It gives the possibility of doing many things, but takes a shitload of time to eventually master them.

Whereas a focused training, is a toon dedicated in industry, or combat with a specific set of weapons. Someone that has invested their training time for a main objective and the necessary support skills, without training to level 5 those that didn't need it because the best mod only requires level 4 (ie repair systems), thus saving time on the overall training time.

Last time I checked I think it takes like 25 years to get all skills to level 5 but then you're never going to be using all those skills at the same time.

i.e.
If you're flying a bc that uses lasers, all the frig\bs\capital skills and all the missile\hybrid\projectile skills aren't doing squatt.

Eve's about specialisation in a specific area, you just gotta find what you want to do.

I specialise in being terrible at eve :)

Rank 1 skills are always worth training to level 5 (about 3 days), as are skills that affect all ships. Example: most of the skills on Core Competency certificates fall into this category.

I prioritize skills that give me the most return for the time investment. This can be different for different people, as well as change over time as your needs change.

I train everything to level 2 first as that takes about 2 hours at most on the highest rank of skill, and is often much quicker than that. It works for me, but that doesn't mean it is a good idea for anybody else. You decide what is best for yourself.

You have different categories of skills ...


Some skills, such as your support skills in Navigation, Electronics, Engineering and Mechanics will benefit you whatever ship you fly.

Then you have task oriented skills like Gunnery, Industry, Missiles and such that let you do certain things.

Then there are your tanking skills - generally armor or shields.


These last two categories can be selective - letting you progress faster - or more inclusive, letting you have more options. Minmatar are known for their flexibility - but - have a higher training threshold because of it.



Then you get into highly specialized skills that take a lot of training to do one specific job.


Mostly, you want to start off with one philosophy and do that until you've got something that can make you some decent money - then branch out some.

You're probably all right training for different weapons and tanks up to a point - but if you start getting into really specialized skills - you do want to know that you really want to do these things, and not mess around partially training for one then partially training for another and another, etc. An indicator of a really specialized skill - is that it has other skills to Level V as a prerequisite.



Now - another thing you have going on there - is not knowing what you want to do in the game. That happens a lot.

It's not going to hurt you that much to train some low level skills to get a taste for what something is about. to see if you like doing it or not.

Here - what you end up with a lot of the time - is people experimenting with their first character a lot - then later on - creating characters they specialize for something they already understand.




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Essentially. For the first year or two, the rule of thumb tends to be "only take a skill to level 5 if it unlocks a module or another skill that you want".

Bringing arbitrary other skills up to V for the incremental bonus is for once you've figured out for sure what specifically you want with your character.

(There is some grey area, a lot of people take Advanced Weapon Upgrades and other core fitting skills to V on principle rather than because there is a specific fit they want to unlock. Any skill related to fitting or capacitor helps literally any ship you might fly, so they can be good to get to V even if you don't need them right this minute.)