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New dev blog: Team Security - Now with 100% more Anti-RMT

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#341 - 2012-04-04 02:22:17 UTC
I hate to be, THAT GUY, but what happen to me being able to use my little security code thing i got at LAST YEARS FANFEST.

Are you guys that ADHD?

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Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#342 - 2012-04-04 02:37:55 UTC
o7 to Sreegs.

He might well be my favourite dev right now.

(Along with Tallest, of course: Because he's just win--ref.: Reversing the proposed fighter signature-resolution nerf in the SCap-rebalancing thread.)

CCP Sreegs wrote:
[...] We fully intend to twist the knife on these kinds of operations and will utilize whichever mechanism we believe will cause them the most pain. [...]


^^ Yes...YES!!!! ^^

Ni.
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#343 - 2012-04-04 02:50:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegs!!!!! Great job! Also great job to those helping you.


CCP Stillman's the main man on this project.


CCP Stillman! Why you no post so I may hit 'like' button?!
ISquishWorms
#344 - 2012-04-04 03:06:40 UTC  |  Edited by: ISquishWorms
Marlona Sky wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegs!!!!! Great job! Also great job to those helping you.


CCP Stillman's the main man on this project.


CCP Stillman! Why you no post so I may hit 'like' button?!


This ^^

‘No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh’.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#345 - 2012-04-04 03:13:10 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
I hate to be, THAT GUY, but what happen to me being able to use my little security code thing i got at LAST YEARS FANFEST.

Are you guys that ADHD?


ETA is July 2012. It was mentioned in CCP Sreeg's last thread (regarding the Scarlet Letters).

It probably will happen at the same time as the Launcher becomes the "login" point for the game. At least, that's my guess.
Krunzer Shakiel
New Eden Munitions Corporation
#346 - 2012-04-04 03:51:36 UTC
Does anyone know what is a reasonable time for a GM/CCP or someone to respond to a report BOT action issued in game. Its been 2 weeks since I've reported a blindly obvious Market BOT and nothing has happened? I realise there are bigger fish to fry and ( and are being fried) but trading is my main activity.

I've found since the initial BAN a few weeks ago the market bots are increasingly interfering with the market again...

My assumption is the Report Bot button is more of a feel good item, and/or requires multiple hits on the same toon to get any action (...personally I don't actually expect more from this feature, and god knows how many times it get used or misued a day)

One reason I'm pushing with this market bot to go in this thread is that it has an obvious signature which CCP don't seem to have on their autodetect rules (yet?) - I would hope Sreegs or someone wish to pursue this.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#347 - 2012-04-04 03:52:17 UTC
Not sure if you can update blogs, but I recommend if you can, to add the following.

1. Link info to how to legitimately trade characters

2. Link plexes

RMT is an issue in both games, some RMT players might not know how to legitimately do so. The wikis are pretty good for them so link em up!

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#348 - 2012-04-04 04:10:01 UTC
CCP Sreegs, would you be able to take the time to link to the Making ISK guide in the Evelopedia, from your devblogs regarding botting and RMT? I figure giving people a pointer to legitimate means to make ISK withing the rules of our virtual world might help reduce the number of pointless arguments about, "ratting and mining are boring, I need better ways to make ISK."

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#349 - 2012-04-04 04:48:06 UTC
Allataria wrote:
CCP really needs to look at the root of the issue which is making isk in game in any way is terribly boring. Ratting or mining or hauling or missioning. It doesn't matter how you make your money they are all incredibly dull.


Interestingly enough, there is a Making ISK guide dealing with a variety of means to make ISK, INCLUDING NINJA SALVAGING. If you want a way to make ISK that includes all the fun of PVP, you really can't go past gankers officer-fit Tengus and CNRs in mission hubs.

As for botters "being essential" — bollocks! Bots are directly responsible for making mining and speculation low value activities.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#350 - 2012-04-04 05:02:46 UTC
I think this is a step in the right direction. Could we get the number of players included in the number of accounts also? It would be interesting to see how many alt accounts we are talking about. I think it would be great to have some kind of ticker in officer quarters with the numbers updated on the big screen too! Killmails of the accounts would be nice as well if your taking more suggestions Lol Keep attacking them!
Sister Megarea
Sisters of Agony
#351 - 2012-04-04 05:15:31 UTC
So can you post any of the rage/tear/h4te mail you've gotten from botter/RMTers (with identifying details removed, of course) ?

Tears mail is particularly amusing :)
gring
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#352 - 2012-04-04 05:22:30 UTC
so my account got hacked last year around about june... just wondering if the reversals will have any effect on that since i lost about 10 billion isk in ships/modules and also my character looked like it was trying to be sold. REALLY hope it does :s
Imigo Montoya
BreadFleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#353 - 2012-04-04 05:26:42 UTC
Z2ZzzzZ2Z wrote:
GM Nythanos, can you comment on my post #325. i feel like i was sorta left hanging. not trying to be difficult but my issues remain. please clarify this for the community.


You mention CCP going "off half cocked", but you seem to have done the same in your question.

CCP Sreegs pretty much answered your concerns here. Deal with it.
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#354 - 2012-04-04 05:42:19 UTC
CCP Stillman / Sreggs

Hi and thank you for your continued work. Much appreciated.

How about a check box I can tick in my recruitment section that automagically denies anyone who's been temp banned.

This way, you don't need to put a scarlet letter on anyone, you just kinda disallow them from joining my corp in the first place.

This way, they're not chased with torches and pitchforks across new eden and I still get to keep that element out of my corp.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement
Leeonwung
Damned And Disinherited
#355 - 2012-04-04 06:04:55 UTC
Great work CCP.

I really hope you will be able to eventually get rid of all the bots and botters and find a way to keep them out of the game. Maybe one of those "Captcha's" at login. Love the game and the concept and cant imagine a better way to pass time whilst playing an MMO game.

Eve The Greatest Game Ever

"Know the enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles you will never be in peril. When you are ignorant of the enemy, but know yourself, your chances of winning or losing are equal. If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain in every battle to be in peril." - Sun Tzu
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
#356 - 2012-04-04 06:15:39 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Yeah posting the same question that's already been answered in this thread isn't going to get you an answer you like better. I believe your assertion to be absolutely incorrect 100%.

By this standard, as I said earlier, every MMO ever was a boring noninteractive game and every one in the future will be as well.

I'm glad you got your message out though. Again. Stay Strong!
..... Wow. I almost cried a little tear there. It's like the old days when devs didn't take **** from anyone and gave as good as they got. This keeps up I might actually begin to like CCP again. Big smile
Padme Amidala Naberrie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#357 - 2012-04-04 06:23:26 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:


My job isn't to secure the loans your corporation is making outside of the game mechanics. That is your risk and always will be.

:edit: and always has been


Sending ISK to somebody and (hopefully) have it back + interests after 30 days IS inside game mechanics.

Else why can we send ISK to somebody else?

With your reasoning ANY ISK exchange can be with a RMTer and subject to ban.

And you guess what?

They get ban, no ability to post. No ability to petition but use a craptastic ancient general contact form that is used by thousands guys sending spam or asking for general EvE info.

After WEEKS of being daily stolen subscription money a GM replies them that their logs show nothing and closes the petition. They can reopen a new petition and escalate it and get a "the former GM was right, now GTFO" reply. Be happy, now they will have purple letter, unsellable account and be shunned by everybody and no single way to ever be heard again.

Sure this is not your concern, but it's us who have to bear with this bullsht even in tangential cases.


Edit: sorry for peeing on your best thread, if I knew of anybody in CCP who'd CARE to listen to concerns I'd harass them. But alas, there's only a rubber wall to keep us muppet- ehm customers shut.


Seriously - would you go cry your tears somewhere else. Loaning ISK is a game mechanic *created* by the players so CCP has no responsibility to guarantee your loans.

Would you have any sympathy for me *if* I rented space in 0.0 and was scammed? Would you have any sympathy if I was ransomed in low sec, paid the ransom and got killed anyway? Would you have any sympathy for me if I paid GS to join them only to find it was a scam?

No.

So why should we have any sympathy for you if you load someone ISK and you end up losing it? You seem to be asking for a stone cold guarantee for your "business".

Well, guess what? This is EVE. You want guarantees, go play another game. Roll

PAN
GizzyBoy
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#358 - 2012-04-04 06:58:56 UTC
hrrm good stuff against the bots.


my good friend Joe once again has his name tarnished by anti bot posters.
How ever on his behalf,

Please CEASE AND DESIST your defamation of Joe via the use of those particular banners.
he in no way RMT's / BOTS, endorses or uses those services outside of the cccp provided services.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#359 - 2012-04-04 07:02:13 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:


CCP Stillman! Why you no post so I may hit 'like' button?!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#360 - 2012-04-04 07:03:02 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
CCP Sreegs, would you be able to take the time to link to the Making ISK guide in the Evelopedia, from your devblogs regarding botting and RMT? I figure giving people a pointer to legitimate means to make ISK withing the rules of our virtual world might help reduce the number of pointless arguments about, "ratting and mining are boring, I need better ways to make ISK."


+1 very sensible suggestion

Prevention always beats cure

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016