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Dec 20, the make or break date for CCP

Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
#101 - 2011-09-26 16:10:34 UTC
quickshot89 wrote:
December 20th, the day all the moaners quit for a month to try KOTOR before they come crawling back to eve

I've been re-playing KOTOR 2 lately, ******* love it :P

The two games don't compare to each other, but that doesn't matter. If you've got a strict checklist for what you require in a game then of course you're going to limit yourself to a single one.

Me? I don't much care about a sandbox (at least, not one that claims to be a sandbox when it really isn't). I don't put labels on gameplay mechanics, or have strict requirements as to what must be included in a game (ie. It must have a player driven market etc).

If it's fun, i'l play it until it ceases to be fun.

I've played eve for nearly 5 years, and for me, it has ceased to be fun. I cant say if it is down to the developement, the general attitude of ccp, the controversial deployment of incarna, or just the fact that i have been there and done it all. Either way, I'l be playing something else until that ceases to be fun. I'l check back on eve periodically because it is full of potential, but right now, it's just another game to me as opposed to the special thing it used to be.

Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
#102 - 2011-09-26 16:28:55 UTC
I played games before Eve, I have left Eve andlayed other MMOS over the years and I will play games long after Eve. The point here is that Im a gamer, not an Eve..r. That said no matter what games have come along, I always end up back here and always for the same reason... Other games have never turned out to be better than Eve. This new release from Bioware looks awsome and come Dec 20th you can bet your ass I will be killing **** with laser swords but I suspect once the novalty wares off I will be back here. Its just the way it is.

The reality of Eve is that, if you don't love it like it is today, you should probobly go ahead and unsub. 

Arton Yachting and Angling Club
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#103 - 2011-09-26 16:51:33 UTC
TOR has "warzones" hence it is not open world pvp. Therefore, if you favor open world pvp you are not going to switch from eve to TOR.
Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
S I L E N T.
#104 - 2011-09-26 16:58:15 UTC
To reach December 20, they have to survive October 28...
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#105 - 2011-09-26 18:42:31 UTC
I can garuntee that SW TOR will steal more wow players than eve players percentage wise.

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Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#106 - 2011-09-26 18:58:17 UTC
Forget about TOR, on October 25th when BF3 comes out, Im gonna be playing that **** and put my subs on hold. Then Rage will come soon after.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2011-09-26 18:59:19 UTC
ToR will be exactly what every other game is to me. That other game im playing while EvE is running on my other screen...

Bounties for all!

Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
#108 - 2011-09-26 19:04:11 UTC
I'm gonna be giving SWTOR a try for sure.

Doesn't mean I'm gonna quit EvE though....I may not play much for a while, but I doubt a wow clone with lightsabers will fill my EvE niche.
Sunshine and Lollipops
#109 - 2011-09-26 19:06:12 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
Gameplay footage of SW:TOR's spaceships:
Try not to laugh/cry.
Well, to be fair… Rogue Squadron was a nice game for its time, so it's about time that someone tries to compete with it…
Zen Sarum
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#110 - 2011-09-26 19:34:59 UTC
After the 20th of December 2011 EVE will become even more niche..

New or casual players will move over to play it and many of the people CCP was aiming for with WIS will see SW:TOR as far superior to what they would have liked to see from an interaction and storyline point of view (ie not a Door). It will also see massive expansions and cash thrown at it, in what will certainly be a very polished product which is easy to play and immersive from some great developers.

Is this a good thing or bad? Do we really want to lose new or casual players that don't love eve, maybe?

Are we happy to see more competition in this general market, yes.

Today EVE has a monopoly on what you could call genericly call massive multiplayer sci-fi online game and draws many new players because of it. I have flown with many of them and helped them to understand how to enjoy EVE. This is despite any shortcoming on New player experience or any issues that player will have to work and learn to play EVE well and learn how to actually enjoy the game (a game you have to learn how to enjoy? That is some dedicated player base!).

This will not happen going forwards, in fact it is already not happening. In the past I have noticed lots of new players trying EVE liking it and or giving up, maybe coming back afterwards, but there was a constant stream. Today I struggle more then ever to find 'a new player'. This is the reality even before the 20th, what happens after this? Not much or quite allot.. it all depends on CCP..

So CCP have to ensure they deliver massive bold expansions that are polished to support the 'niche' of detailed immersive FiS and the grand storylines, atmosphere and unique universe people will be drawn to. In addition there is WiS content which was long promised to purely support FiS and player interactivity (not to act as a test platform to support other games and a thinly veiled disguise to profit from an ingame shop with no actual content).

This wonderful universe CCP originally developed and gave to us, when did this dream die?

A universe they stopped developing and left to flounder, hoping their players fill in the development gaps, the story and always and forever to ultimately beta test it for them. Without players there is no content. Without new players there is no future. Without content there is no game.

Wake up..
#111 - 2011-09-26 19:52:37 UTC
That new starwars game is just more of the same old tired mmo garbage that has been saturating the market for the last 7 or 8 years. It's basically WoW reskinned, and it going to suck worse than WoW for the most part. Every part of the mechanics is just tired and overdone and frankly boring as ****.

Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
#112 - 2011-09-26 22:19:48 UTC
Those claiming it'l be another "wow clone" are being rather short sighted and obviously just looking at the ui and saying huurdurrwowclonelol. Take some time to look at the info released at the various expo's, it's actually rather promising. It isn't eve, and it doesn't claim to be some limitless sandbox, but then eve fails horribly to deliver on the sandbox claim anyway.

It looks like fun, especially for fans of the KOTOR games, and so far only limited info on the pvp mechanics have been revealed so all these people who claim to know everything about the game inside out and back to front are really just hurfblurf blowers.

Comparing SWTOR to EVE is pretty pointless though. You might as well say that diablo 3 will steal eve players, or skyrim will steal eve players. Sure, eve players may leave to play those games, but that doesn't mean that you can draw direct comparisons between the games and play "top trumps" with each games main features. People will play whatever they find fun, they aren't limited to only playing games with open world pvp, or player driven markets etc etc

"oh no open world pvp? NO DEAL! I don't care how good the rest of the features are, or how much fun there is to be had, it is a matter of PRINCIPLES!".

Get a grip, and accept that while there aren't any games out there that claim to have the features eve does, there ARE plenty of games out there that are more fun.