EVE General Discussion

I see so many threads where people state how much they make per hour.
I am not interested in that

I also see many people state how much OTHER's make per hour
I am not interested in that either

What I am interested in is how much someone has to make MINIMUM per hour to "survive" in this game

Now, given there are myriad ways to play this game, and each eats or creates money at equally myriad rates

But let me form an example of what I may suggest is a "typical" player, even though I know such a player does not exist
I would further suggest that this "typical" player's numbers could be all over the map, but at least it is a starting point of dicussion

First off, assumptions

Player is online 15 hours/week
Player pays for game time with real world money, not in game plex
Player has 1 account
Of that 15 hours a week, player spends 20% of their time (3 hours) in some form of non-ISK generation play. It could be PvP based, or ship spinning, or whatever
Player loses 200M million ISK in ships and modules / week, after all insurance and salvage. (That number averages in everyone who NEVER loses a ship to those that lose a Titan every year. I personally think that 200M / player is very low.
Player also is burning through about 40 M/ week in skill books. That number is quite lower when your char gets older and gets involved in longer skill queues, but in the first year of play, people burn through a lot.

So, based on my numbers, which I have pulled mostly out of thin air, lead to net operating costs of 240 million/week
If someone has 12 hours a week to dedicate to generating 240M, which is 20M / hour

That seems pretty low to me, but frankly, my numbers are based on someone who is playing pretty casually.
Also, I am looking at the costs of some T2 cruisers, and shudder at how much someone has to "work" in game to pay to replace that ship.

I can get by on making absolutely nothing per hour. Thank you PLEX!

I get on fine with a certain 10m / hour, and can still afford to get plex every month

Thank you faction loot! I consider it a bonus for being such an active ratter

Really depends how much you are willing to play. You can make only 1 mil an hour, but if you play 24/7 (AKA botting) you will still make more money in then long run than someone who makes 40 mil an hour but only plays 1 hour a week.

- Mining Dense Veld with a hauler alt and no Orca bonus will get you around 15 mill/hr (classic dual box set up)
- Lever 4 courier will get you maybe if you are lucky 2 mill/hr
- Level 3 Combat Missions doing them like you are actually playing a game and not running an endurance marathon 12 mill/ hr add in rare meta 4 can bring it up to 20 mill/hr

Anything but Incursions, Level 4 combat and blue loot farming is below your projected number with courier missions being the welfare line of EVE. Mining missions come in a close second.

- Ice Miner is around 9 Mill with a hauler alt. (why people macro it I suspect)

I seem to make about 8-15b every 3 months for 5 hours in-game work and can pay by plex for 5 of 7 accounts during that time, Plexing the others as and when I need them.

I don't know how much that ends up 'per hour' but best answer gets some isk :P

ISK/hr, the only metric in EVE.

he means isk>$$$$

I lost ~3.3M ISK/day in ships while living in Amamake and PVPing the entire time I was logged in. I spent most of my time PVPing in a Harpy, Taranis, or Talos.

-Liang

I do not measure my income in isk/hr I measure it in isk/month. Depending on what I sell I make between 2-10bil per month, that seems to barely cover my lavish spending.