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Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#21 - 2012-04-01 04:15:02 UTC
He seemed popular enough at the polls

"DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini "Gloomy Gus is literally a pocket" - Krixtal Icefluxor (former EVE Online player)

Frying Doom
#22 - 2012-04-01 04:23:59 UTC
Gloomy Gus wrote:
He seemed popular enough at the polls

Yes he was, does this mean you have no one else at all. You poor Goons.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
Good Sax
#23 - 2012-04-01 04:30:26 UTC
Gloomy Gus wrote:
He seemed popular enough at the polls


Math question, which of these two numbers us greater?

~10058~

or

~1282~

Hmmm

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#24 - 2012-04-01 05:36:04 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Gloomy Gus wrote:
He seemed popular enough at the polls

Yes he was, does this mean you have no one else at all. You poor Goons.

Ah don't worry about that. It isn't as though he singlehandedly runs the whole CFC.

But odd to see someone pitying goons, normally you'd be telling everyone about our ~structural weakness~ and agitating for ~regime change~ and ~humanitarian intervention~.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-04-01 05:37:25 UTC
i think it's time to declare a moratorium on tildes thx
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#26 - 2012-04-01 05:44:31 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
i think it's time to declare a moratorium on tildes thx

Sanctions attempting to cut off the source of the regime's power, huh.

Well you only hurt, uh ... the common keyboards, that now suffer from unequal use of the keys.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-04-01 05:51:12 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
i think it's time to declare a moratorium on tildes thx

I for one feel ~distinguished~ and very ~fancy~ when using the tilde. It has that same feel of raising your pinky when drinking fine tea from an expensive ivory cup. I guess you plebs here don't get it though~~~
Frying Doom
#28 - 2012-04-01 06:06:27 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Gloomy Gus wrote:
He seemed popular enough at the polls

Yes he was, does this mean you have no one else at all. You poor Goons.

Ah don't worry about that. It isn't as though he singlehandedly runs the whole CFC.

But odd to see someone pitying goons, normally you'd be telling everyone about our ~structural weakness~ and agitating for ~regime change~ and ~humanitarian intervention~.

Actually Regime change would be good for the Goons and bad for me and a lot of others. The Goonswarm is the best joke going atm, I would hate to have to go back to how it was before, laughing at Goons is so much better.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#29 - 2012-04-01 13:32:32 UTC
It is tough being a goon these days. The common goons have largely lost faith in The Mittani, and rarely log in anymore. Dear Leader's current battles with the directorate are legendary, and now I hear the corp wallet has gone missing,. I hear there's a term for what I'm seeing but I can't remember it

"DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini "Gloomy Gus is literally a pocket" - Krixtal Icefluxor (former EVE Online player)

Pisov viet
Perkone
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-04-01 14:58:46 UTC
Gloomy Gus wrote:
It is tough being a goon these days. The common goons have largely lost faith in The Mittani, and rarely log in anymore. Dear Leader's current battles with the directorate are legendary, and now I hear the corp wallet has gone missing,. I hear there's a term for what I'm seeing but I can't remember it

I heard you guys spent the week end losing fleets after fleets to abaddons and archons, never able to reinforce any structure.
Michiko Kat Sterling
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-04-01 15:26:59 UTC
Call me uninformed but your leader was just a leader of a small percentage of people who play this game. Your interests do not in any way shape or form represent Eve in it's entirety. If it were more people in high sec would be in null, as such your motives are purely geared towards your own enjoyment and not for the rest of the gaming population of eve.

I don't go to null sec because that is how I see the sandbox of Eve to be, and why the hell would I want somebody who cant even hold his drink tell me what to do and how to play and enjoy. Mittens must be a democrat.
Coda Grimoire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-04-01 16:46:17 UTC


I don't go to null sec because that is how I see the sandbox of Eve to be, and why the hell would I want somebody who cant even hold his drink tell me what to do and how to play and enjoy. Mittens must be a democrat.[/quote]

I bet he doesn't care who you marry or who you have sex with. That's a republican obsession.

disclaimer: I did not just bite on this bait. I didn't respond. This is just what I would have said if I did.
Sephiroth CloneIIV
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#33 - 2012-04-01 19:58:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Sephiroth Clone VII
Coda Grimoire wrote:
oops I did it too


Look

There were two incredible public learning moments. First, we watched the alliance presentation where we saw a player beg and beg to be left alone. Then after the presentation, speaker went on to call for players to finish this guy off in RL by continuing to grief him in game.

That is the conversation you need to have.

What is griefing? Why are you doing it? Do you see how this affects your RL behavior now?

We watched on film how ingame behavior leaks out into RL. FREE him? He's in RL as tho that is a prison and he is being kept from his REAL life in EVE?

The lines are really blurry. That you should consider.

And, do I need to point out that you all feel a little bit of what you have been handing out? And now you going to just step it up?

What is this? EVE jihad? Take the 30 days and reflect...that is what the 30 ban is for. I suggest a course correction, but I don't expect it. Good luck with this convo


what is greifing?

This is a game about blowing up spaceships. Give it, its a bad joke to make about trolling a flunky though suicide (that broke the line, where as other people causing mayham limited mainly to the game).

Are people who blow up capitals and jump freighters and capitals going to stop because someones feelings will get hurt.
bilingi
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-04-01 22:13:50 UTC
Funny founder of Hulkegeddons banned for DIF comment yet Mitts gets 30 days and you guys act like hes being beaten on... Good thing theres Goon devs then aint it... Talk about a slap on the wrist its pathtic they are so biased...
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#35 - 2012-04-02 01:27:03 UTC
Pisov viet wrote:
Gloomy Gus wrote:
It is tough being a goon these days. The common goons have largely lost faith in The Mittani, and rarely log in anymore. Dear Leader's current battles with the directorate are legendary, and now I hear the corp wallet has gone missing,. I hear there's a term for what I'm seeing but I can't remember it

I heard you guys spent the week end losing fleets after fleets to abaddons and archons, never able to reinforce any structure.

Yeah, taking Raiden. space is a total failure.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Coda Grimoire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-04-02 02:38:38 UTC
[quote=Sephiroth CloneIIV][quote=Coda Grimoire]oops I did it to


Loo

There were two incredible public learning moments. First, we watched the alliance presentation where we saw a player beg and beg to be left alone. Then after the presentation, speaker went on to call for players to finish this guy off in RL by continuing to grief him in game

That is the conversation you need to have

What is griefing? Why are you doing it? Do you see how this affects your RL behavior now

We watched on film how ingame behavior leaks out into RL. FREE him? He's in RL as tho that is a prison and he is being kept from his REAL life in EVE

The lines are really blurry. That you should consider

And, do I need to point out that you all feel a little bit of what you have been handing out? And now you going to just step it up

What is this? EVE jihad? Take the 30 days and reflect...that is what the 30 ban is for. I suggest a course correction, but I don't expect it. Good luck with this convo[/quote

what is greifing

This is a game about blowing up spaceships. Give it, its a bad joke to make about trolling a flunky though suicide (that broke the line, where as other people causing mayham limited mainly to the game)

Are people who blow up capitals and jump freighters and capitals going to stop because someones feelings will get hurt.[/quote



I have said before

Historically, games have been the place to teach teamwork, respect, honor, sportsmanship, etc. Games demanded you leave your griefer stuff off the playing field. Thousands of years

Now video games have turned that around. 'We know how to be civilized. Screw that. Let's get funky.

The problem is that being a great person in RL and a savage sadist in the game clearly can get you a big wakeup call on film in public. *shudder

I get that honor and stuff are not your thing. What is puzzling is the hostility toward people who are still using the sportsmanship they learned as kids and growing up. We still expect our professional teams to be honorable

To the point: killing unarmed ships is not only morally offensive to some players, but in my opinion this is the last stop in leaving honor behind. This level of sadism was the stage for the tragedy of calling for a suicide in real life, using the game to send him there

Everyone knows what griefing is and everyone knows where the line is between competitive fighting and personal attacks

I saw a Goon suggest that the ice-field exploitation was a mistake. I agree. (I notice killing barges is up a bit today .)


Coda Grimoire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-04-02 02:53:32 UTC
sorry that post was technical fail

P.S. There are plenty of miners who are sick in bed, dying, with blood pressure problems, emotional problems...all who love the game and feel they are part of the community and contributing by their mining.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#38 - 2012-04-02 03:21:10 UTC
Coda Grimoire wrote:

To the point: killing unarmed ships is not only morally offensive to some players, but in my opinion this is the last stop in leaving honor behind.

Ohh, ~e-honoure~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Coda Grimoire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-04-02 03:30:40 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Coda Grimoire wrote:

To the point: killing unarmed ships is not only morally offensive to some players, but in my opinion this is the last stop in leaving honor behind.

Ohh, ~e-honoure~



you don't have to choose honor, I'm just amazed by the hatred of it.

Too hard? LOL

Kai Tel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-04-02 06:29:32 UTC
Since when does a zombie herd need leadership? Just dangle a fresh peice of meat in front of them and they zerg... Asking them to plan is just too complicated.