EVE General Discussion

The tears of the one who seeks tears are the best tears!

The fact that you call others poisonous when you want to lower the amount of players in this game via griefing is absolutely hilarious.

Are you a giant hypocrite 100% of the time? Or only when you are QQing? Do you really think that a game should only cater to you?

It's like the 'Wilkus-styled Gankers' (WILKIES ?) are playing Doom, and want to be in "God-Mode" when in High Sec. 'Kill all the riff raff, but nothing can touch you.'

Those with the 'playstyle' of Herr Wilkus really are qualified for a rubber room IMHO.

Hey OP... No.

Avoiding Concord has always been an exploit. Kind of understood was that the "ganker" would lose his/her stuff. Avoiding loosing stuff is an exploit.

whine more.

LOL, a bit butthurt imo.

What people fail to understand here is that this ISN'T about the boomerang ruling in itself. If you read the OP and quit trolling and playing internet badass for 30 seconds, you might actually gain some comprehension of what's at issue here.

This about CCP changing the rules to satisfy the whines of one group of players, at the expense of another group. This is about the GMs being "too busy" to enforce long-held rules on exploits, yet them adding more rules and then stating that they would make judgement calls based on "the spirit of the law" which puts a chilling effect on emergent gameplay.

Since some of you are being so deliberately dense, I'll give you some easy bullet points to read:

• The boomerang wasn't considered an exploit, now it is. It wasn't being used to evade Concord, only to delay the inevitable. The logs should show that people using this tactic always lost their ships in the end. Sounds like it's Working As Intended to me.
• The GMs previously said they were dropping the wardec exploit rules because they were overwhelmed with enforcement duties. Not so overwhelmed, it seems, to make new rules on which they must act.
• Possibly the most worrisome is the statements made by GMs that they intend to enforce rules based on arbitrary guidelines where people who innovate run the risk of crossing invisible lines. It gives the impression that the NEXT boomerang could get you in trouble retroactively: if they decide that what you did needs a new rule, you get in trouble for actions you took prior to the existence of the rule.

I'm tired of CCP's blatant favoritism toward the hapless, obstinate carebear who refuses to accept risk. That's not how Eve was when I came here, and it's not what's going to keep me interested in the game.

edit: I think it needs to be clearly stated that the more CCP does to make the game friendly to the players this favors, the more they're going to create a revolving door of subscribership where people come in, stay for a year or so, and leave. I've met dozens of former Eve players in real life, and they all said the same thing: they played for a 12-18 months, got bored, and quit. Most of us who DON'T get bored aren't mining and shooting rats for years on end. We're engaging in PVP in all its different forms.

(and yes, ganking is PVP. Just because it's not a toe-to-toe pistols at dawn duel that satisfies your sense of honor doesn't mean it's not PVP. It's one player attacking another for the sake of profit or competition. In my industrialist days, I hired some wannabe mercs to gank exhumers that were operating in the system I was using as a base. After a few rounds of ganks I had the belts all to myself. That is most certainly PVP in the spirit of Eve.)

i am srry to say that but for your solution for freighter gank you need to play in team, after all it's a multiplayer game. aparently for carebear population anything involving more than 1 player it's bad and need to be nerfed; funny thing they say the griefers are sociopaths and without social life blah blah blah. i wonder who are the really sociopaths here?

going to have to give you a like...nice summary of the OP's character....


@OP you seem to have put a lot of effort into finding a way to make people unsub.

Ganking is one thing and should be encouraged in order to preserve the "no where is safe" aspect of Eve. However, this seems to be a bit extreme.

Try going for a walk...stay away from other humans and small animals at first. As you become accustomed to society again try saying "hello" to some people. You will at first feel that everyone hates you but it isn't true. That s just the small person that you are inside sabotaging you. Ignore it.

Report back in 2 years and let us know how you did.

OP should be banned for incredible stupidity in thinking that this wouldn't be ruled an exploit after he overused it. A comment from the Titan thread comes to mind... "like someone, when presented with a free bar, instead of using it sensibly, instead got smashed and headbutted the doorman, and is now surprised at the reaction".

The boomerang trick has been obvious for years. The introduction of the Tornado is irrelevant. It's always been obvious, that after ganking someone, you could warp to another belt and attempt to gank another e.g., miner before CONCORD arrives. It also been obvious that overuse of it would be ruled an exploit. Because you're gaining an advantage from delaying your death to CONCORD.