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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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bornaa
GRiD.
#4021 - 2012-03-30 22:57:39 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Severian Carnifex wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
CCP removes posts when enough people report them. Some goonies recently got forum banned for forum rule violations.

See where I am going?

Most of you should also know CCP will not discuss forum moderation.






I don't dispute that.
I ask why that posts were not problem in the past when they were actual, and are problem today (and got deleted today)?



Probably because CCP's forum moderation is abysmal even on good days. Threads that should not last 10 minutes on a properly monitored forum can last 2 or more days here before CCP gets around to removing or moderating them. EXCEPT when there is a huge scandal.

A player or two probably went through and reported posts in this thread, and because CCP was doing a lot of moderation the last couple of days they got around to reviewing and removing them.






I hope that's the case.
[Yes, I'm an Amateur](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRa-69uBmIw&feature=relmfu)
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4022 - 2012-03-30 23:09:01 UTC
Arkady Vachon wrote:
Stellar Vix wrote:
Arkady Vachon wrote:
WiS would only be interesting to if you can walk up to someone's avatar and put a bullet or laser bolt through their character's brainpan...

I'm writing me up a nice little hit list just in case.


Cool ill put all of CAS on a hit list.
-Vix



Feeling's mutual with SWA, no safe place in this conflict. :)


SWA already claims rookie space superiority, station conquest only a small leap away.

-Vix

SWA Instructor, Commander Select Currently being blamed as SWA's CEO SWA PVP Program
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#4023 - 2012-03-31 07:36:07 UTC
As long only the trolling is removed ,who cares how many pages this thread has

R.S.I2014
RAP ACTION HERO
#4024 - 2012-03-31 07:39:33 UTC
ppl discussing wis for and against
200+ pages over months
vs
ppl discussing the mittani for and against
200+ pages + multiple threadnaughts over a matter of days

still proud now, OP?

vitoc erryday
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#4025 - 2012-03-31 07:54:16 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
ppl discussing wis for and against
200+ pages over months
vs
ppl discussing the mittani for and against
200+ pages + multiple threadnaughts over a matter of days

still proud now, OP?


So your point is what?

R.S.I2014
Avila Cracko
#4026 - 2012-03-31 10:29:34 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
ppl discussing wis for and against
200+ pages over months
vs
ppl discussing the mittani for and against
200+ pages + multiple threadnaughts over a matter of days

still proud now, OP?


So your point is what?




I think his point it that 1800 goons (i read somewhere that that many of BCs going to jita so not writing all 8000+ number) are literate enough to write 3 post each to they are bragging about it.

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Tristan North
The Scope
#4027 - 2012-03-31 10:53:40 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
ppl discussing wis for and against
200+ pages over months
vs
ppl discussing the mittani for and against
200+ pages + multiple threadnaughts over a matter of days

still proud now, OP?

FiS news at fanfest and just few threads about it.
So, this prove that the community don't give a **** about the entire game, it's just massive trolling.
Still proud?
bornaa
GRiD.
#4028 - 2012-03-31 11:35:19 UTC
Tristan North wrote:
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
ppl discussing wis for and against
200+ pages over months
vs
ppl discussing the mittani for and against
200+ pages + multiple threadnaughts over a matter of days

still proud now, OP?

FiS news at fanfest and just few threads about it.
So, this prove that the community don't give a **** about the entire game, it's just massive trolling.
Still proud?


This is sadly true. Sad
99% of players on this forums dont care for EVE at all... Sad


but i must ask,
where did you got that uniform your avatar is wearing???
I am drooling... 
[Yes, I'm an Amateur](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRa-69uBmIw&feature=relmfu)
Tristan North
The Scope
#4029 - 2012-03-31 11:59:59 UTC
bornaa wrote:
Tristan North wrote:
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
ppl discussing wis for and against
200+ pages over months
vs
ppl discussing the mittani for and against
200+ pages + multiple threadnaughts over a matter of days

still proud now, OP?

FiS news at fanfest and just few threads about it.
So, this prove that the community don't give a **** about the entire game, it's just massive trolling.
Still proud?


This is sadly true. Sad
99% of players on this forums dont care for EVE at all... Sad


but i must ask,
where did you got that uniform your avatar is wearing???
I am drooling...


It's a gift for japanese players, or something like that.

You'll find it in Jita, like everything else...
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#4030 - 2012-03-31 12:12:54 UTC
bornaa wrote:
Tristan North wrote:
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
ppl discussing wis for and against
200+ pages over months
vs
ppl discussing the mittani for and against
200+ pages + multiple threadnaughts over a matter of days

still proud now, OP?

FiS news at fanfest and just few threads about it.
So, this prove that the community don't give a **** about the entire game, it's just massive trolling.
Still proud?


This is sadly true. Sad
99% of players on this forums dont care for EVE at all... Sad


but i must ask,
where did you got that uniform your avatar is wearing???
I am drooling...



People who bother to visit the forums love this game anyway so i don,t think that is the case
Like WIS is a major topic on these boards,the Goon tears are also a big deal .
Are the amount of pages relevant? i don,t think so
Its funny that like the WIS thread being bumped by Goons,Goons keep providing Goon tears

R.S.I2014
Richard Aiel
The Merchants of War
#4031 - 2012-03-31 14:57:40 UTC
Holy crap this thread still exists O.o I think I last posted on 40 something

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/buddahcjcc/SOA-3-2.jpg
bornaa
GRiD.
#4032 - 2012-03-31 15:54:15 UTC
Richard Aiel wrote:
Holy crap this thread still exists O.o I think I last posted on 40 something



This thread is Forever. Smile

EVE Forever.
WiS Forever.
[Yes, I'm an Amateur](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRa-69uBmIw&feature=relmfu)
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4033 - 2012-03-31 16:14:44 UTC
Eve is real.
WiS forever.
I was there.


Deal with it.

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Richard Aiel
The Merchants of War
#4034 - 2012-03-31 16:56:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Aiel
bornaa wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
Holy crap this thread still exists O.o I think I last posted on 40 something



This thread is Forever. Smile

EVE Forever.
WiS Forever.


I thought EVE was dead


DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Eve is real.
WiS forever.
I was there.


Deal with it.


Really? So theyre going back to making content for WiS?

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/buddahcjcc/SOA-3-2.jpg
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#4035 - 2012-03-31 17:07:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Richard Aiel wrote:
bornaa wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
Holy crap this thread still exists O.o I think I last posted on 40 something



This thread is Forever. Smile

EVE Forever.
WiS Forever.


I thought EVE was dead


DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Eve is real.
WiS forever.
I was there.


Deal with it.


Really? So theyre going back to making content for WiS?


They sort of never stopped, they're making art assests as always. Just now they got a team together to say, Okay how do we make out of pod activities fun? Becuase 3d social space isnt going to cut it.

One guy suggest wouldnt it be cool if you can get out of your pod and explore some of these abandoned stations and look for artifacts as an optional explroation means?

So far running hit with us as it allows for combat, puzzles, and new things to do other than dressing up a barbie doll we get to equip a little puppet and run it though a deadly rat maze.

Im all for it especially when they said that the materials you get out would help make advanced implants.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#4036 - 2012-03-31 19:06:07 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
bornaa wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
Holy crap this thread still exists O.o I think I last posted on 40 something



This thread is Forever. Smile

EVE Forever.
WiS Forever.


I thought EVE was dead


DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Eve is real.
WiS forever.
I was there.


Deal with it.


Really? So theyre going back to making content for WiS?


They sort of never stopped, they're making art assests as always. Just now they got a team together to say, Okay how do we make out of pod activities fun? Becuase 3d social space isnt going to cut it.

One guy suggest wouldnt it be cool if you can get out of your pod and explore some of these abandoned stations and look for artifacts as an optional explroation means?

So far running hit with us as it allows for combat, puzzles, and new things to do other than dressing up a barbie doll we get to equip a little puppet and run it though a deadly rat maze.

Im all for it especially when they said that the materials you get out would help make advanced implants.


they sort of never stopped the presummerrage activities ,only changed resources
WIS has now a skeleton crew only for deciding what to do with it
TA is using this thread for ideas.
What people want so far:
Some people still want a social aspect in WIS
Some people still want a social aspect in WIS ,but also some meaningful content
Some people don,t care for the social aspect ,but want some meaningful content
Some people don,t care for the social aspect and meaningful content but want to shoot you between the eyes in station


I don,t care for the social aspect ,bc that almost is a automatic standard in a avatar environment with or without emotes
People gave enough ideas about content in station or in some abandoned remote site
About shooting somebody between the eyes ,ok for me ,as long i get a fair change to leave the cq ,before somebody destroys my implants and brain

R.S.I2014
Severian Carnifex
#4037 - 2012-04-01 09:32:25 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
Richard Aiel wrote:
bornaa wrote:



This thread is Forever. Smile

EVE Forever.
WiS Forever.


I thought EVE was dead


DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Eve is real.
WiS forever.
I was there.


Deal with it.


Really? So theyre going back to making content for WiS?


They sort of never stopped, they're making art assests as always. Just now they got a team together to say, Okay how do we make out of pod activities fun? Becuase 3d social space isnt going to cut it.

One guy suggest wouldnt it be cool if you can get out of your pod and explore some of these abandoned stations and look for artifacts as an optional explroation means?

So far running hit with us as it allows for combat, puzzles, and new things to do other than dressing up a barbie doll we get to equip a little puppet and run it though a deadly rat maze.

Im all for it especially when they said that the materials you get out would help make advanced implants.


they sort of never stopped the presummerrage activities ,only changed resources
WIS has now a skeleton crew only for deciding what to do with it
TA is using this thread for ideas.
What people want so far:
Some people still want a social aspect in WIS
Some people still want a social aspect in WIS ,but also some meaningful content
Some people don,t care for the social aspect ,but want some meaningful content
Some people don,t care for the social aspect and meaningful content but want to shoot you between the eyes in station


I don,t care for the social aspect ,bc that almost is a automatic standard in a avatar environment with or without emotes
People gave enough ideas about content in station or in some abandoned remote site
About shooting somebody between the eyes ,ok for me ,as long i get a fair change to leave the cq ,before somebody destroys my implants and brain


But the main message is that 99.9% of people want WiS! Big smile
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#4038 - 2012-04-01 09:36:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
they sort of never stopped the presummerrage activities ,only changed resources
WIS has now a skeleton crew only for deciding what to do with i
TA is using this thread for ideas
What people want so far
Some people still want a social aspect in WI
Some people still want a social aspect in WIS ,but also some meaningful conten
Some people don,t care for the social aspect ,but want some meaningful conten
Some people don,t care for the social aspect and meaningful content but want to shoot you between the eyes in statio


I don,t care for the social aspect ,bc that almost is a automatic standard in a avatar environment with or without emote
People gave enough ideas about content in station or in some abandoned remote site
About shooting somebody between the eyes ,ok for me ,as long i get a fair change to leave the cq ,before somebody destroys my implants and brain


I think that social gameplay is the "quick and dirty" way to implement some WiS content "now" and not "within two bloody years"

Of course that WiS is about more than chatting and emoting with others (or even waltzing around, my pet idea since LOTGH), but meanwhile we got all those unused assets (avatars, CQs, and the damned unreleased NEx stuff) that just are a sore to the eyes about what it could be and isn't.

I log in each few days to trim my skill queue, and the first thing i see it's Indahmawar iddling by the TV screen. If i have customized her, I may walk her to the balcony for full-light check, and then will use the standard UI to do my business and log off.

And it feels awfully discouraging. When CQ was released, I actually tried to play the game in Ctrl+F9 mode (no UI), interacting to the holograms and such. Kinda didn't work, would have been nice to have a 1st person view and an "iPad" (EVE-pad?) to serve as CQ interface for station functions... an interface within a interfaceless world, to say so.

Well, you may notice, I was really engaged and a bit carried away with the immersion possibilities of the technology. The new character creator was love at first sight.

Now i am out of the game (my sub expires April 30, just checked it yesterday), and rather than discuss on how much cooler is becoming the game because of our cutting edge avatar technology, I am entangled in discussions about Mittens' ego and CCP attempting to ultiterminatefuck non-PvPs via the new wardec system.

Oh, and CCP has comitted 5 developers to find an excuse to have developed these avatars, which makes a whole lot of sense after delivering the avatars to its customers in one of the poorest deliveries ever carried out by a game developer... but is not enough to pay for a game I don't play nor feel like playing any longer until it delivers to me anything it hasn't had for the last 40 months.
Frying Doom
#4039 - 2012-04-01 11:33:39 UTC
Not sure if anyone has said this yet I read this whole tread but that was a few weeks ago.

Personally I would like Wis to be developed into its own game within the game not just for social interactions but more on the line of Cyberpunk. We already have implants in this game so more wouldn't be that much of an issue to increase what an avatar could implanted .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_2020

The old role playing game was kind of cool with lots of guns, toys ect.. you could build in missions that would require us to travel to other stations to interact with NPC's, steal cargo, shady drug deals ect.. Also skills of the same training routine as our current skills but for avatar use.

I for one would like to see Wis developed further and slowly to get it right even if it took another 4 years to get it right. I would like it sooner but if CCP gives to many resources to Wis the spaceship only crowd would scream.

The other bonus to this is you could tie the communal areas of the space stations into DUST 514 so we could have punch ups with them or a conversation if you were that desperate lol.

The Wis concept was around long before I or a lot of other players currently playing were around. It was always looked forward too and just got derailed over the NEX business. After all the money spent so far and the future to increase EvE again beyond just a space ship game it needs to be done but done right the first time they release anything.

We now have a Wis lover on the CSM so I hope this will help it move forward.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
bornaa
GRiD.
#4040 - 2012-04-01 22:34:46 UTC
CCP Prime wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
We all know that WIS will be a long way to go.

Some devs are prototyping some stuff as rhey mentioned

Maybe some devs could explain here whats is done so far
maybe some screens or vids from some tryouts

Now Fanfest is done they could come in this thread more and share their ideas with us .
asking for ideas and not replying is a one way communication
If you say that you have devoted 4 devs and QA to WIS ,at least show some stuff


We are currently prototyping cooperative gameplay in hazardous environments.
It's not beautiful, just programmer art mostly because we are focusing on trying out the gameplay.

At this point, I'd not want to share how it looks like, but those that came to the Avatar Roundtable at Fanfest got a demo and if someone got pictures, well, I guess those are then in the public domain by now :)


Are you guys going for implementing DUST lore/tech into this?
Are you going for other kind of avatars for this kind of venture?
Or DUST type - different suits for other ventures?
How is it going to work with out of pod death?
[Yes, I'm an Amateur](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRa-69uBmIw&feature=relmfu)