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CCP: non consensual wars last forever, smallholders step up!
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#1 - 2012-03-29 16:11:57 UTC
Well, they eventually did it, CCP has gone batshit insane and they are planning to change wardec mechanics so A can wardec B and keep the war going on forever while paying the weekly bill even if the war is non-consensual.

I guess that if you are in a small non-pvp corp, or in a one-man corp, you can figure what could this mean for you and your friends if someone wardecced you just for griefing.

The money quote:

some CCP wrote:
Q: How long will wars last?
A: As long as the aggressor pays every week and no one surrenders (or no surrender offer is accepted), then a war can last forever.


So go to this thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1036933#post1036933

And tell them CCP in what body oriffice can they store this **** so we pretend they never meant it.
Sister Rhode
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-03-29 16:13:42 UTC
I hear you can play WoW free to level 20 now.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#3 - 2012-03-29 16:13:57 UTC
How is that different from right now, exactly?
Starcaller Dredg
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-03-29 16:14:46 UTC
Hello Kitty Online is -------------> over there

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Elijah Craig
Trask Industries
#5 - 2012-03-29 16:15:49 UTC
Pro Tip:- If you are a small Corp that gets WarDec'ed, get some friends to help you.
Capacity gear
True Terraners
#6 - 2012-03-29 16:17:53 UTC
NPC corp?
Xander Riggs
Slamtown Federation
#7 - 2012-03-29 16:18:10 UTC
That was the plan. They want people fighting wars. You fight, get someone to fight for you, or you sit. The sitting could last forever...it's intended to force you to engage the enemy, even if you don't want to.

Because you were ATTACKED.

"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands."
My Neutral Toon
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-03-29 16:19:59 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Well, they eventually did it, CCP has gone batshit insane and they are planning to change wardec mechanics so A can wardec B and keep the war going on forever while paying the weekly bill even if the war is non-consensual.




How is this different from current mechanics? As an Ex-Highsec-Wardec corp member, we used to run war decs as long as we wanted, as long as we paid the fee, and they didnt surrender. Whether it was mutual or not...

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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#9 - 2012-03-29 16:20:04 UTC
As a casual player in a one-man corp, I advise you to nut up.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
My Neutral Toon
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-03-29 16:20:56 UTC
Elijah Craig wrote:
Pro Tip:- If you are a small Corp that gets WarDec'ed, get some friends to help you.



I'll go ahead and throw a name out there...


If you are in Caldari HS and get war dec'd, Contact Lonetrek Salvage and Scrap. for a fee, they'll help you.

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Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#11 - 2012-03-29 16:21:43 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Well, they eventually did it, CCP has gone batshit insane and they are planning to change wardec mechanics so A can wardec B and keep the war going on forever while paying the weekly bill even if the war is non-consensual.

I guess that if you are in a small non-pvp corp, or in a one-man corp, you can figure what could this mean for you and your friends if someone wardecced you just for griefing.


Enlighten me, how is this different from the current mechanic? Appears me that the only downside is that the aggressor just has to pay a bit more than currently to keep it going.

Nothing clever at this time.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#12 - 2012-03-29 16:22:19 UTC
Xander Riggs wrote:
That was the plan. They want people fighting wars. You fight, get someone to fight for you, or you sit. The sitting could last forever...it's intended to force you to engage the enemy, even if you don't want to.

Because you were ATTACKED.


I -rethorically- don't pay for not being able to play a game because of some ******** game mechanic whose only purpose is to favor being a jerk.
Mikhail Illiad
Fevered Imaginings
#13 - 2012-03-29 16:24:15 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Well, they eventually did it, CCP has gone batshit insane and they are planning to change wardec mechanics so A can wardec B and keep the war going on forever while paying the weekly bill even if the war is non-consensual.

I guess that if you are in a small non-pvp corp, or in a one-man corp, you can figure what could this mean for you and your friends if someone wardecced you just for griefing.

The money quote:

some CCP wrote:
Q: How long will wars last?
A: As long as the aggressor pays every week and no one surrenders (or no surrender offer is accepted), then a war can last forever.


So go to this thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1036933#post1036933

And tell them CCP in what body oriffice can they store this **** so we pretend they never meant it.


You mean like it is right now??

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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#14 - 2012-03-29 16:25:09 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
I -rethorically- don't pay for not being able to play a game because of some ******** game mechanic whose only purpose is to favor being a jerk.

Man, I really hope you quit.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Sister Rhode
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-03-29 16:29:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Sister Rhode
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Xander Riggs wrote:
That was the plan. They want people fighting wars. You fight, get someone to fight for you, or you sit. The sitting could last forever...it's intended to force you to engage the enemy, even if you don't want to.

Because you were ATTACKED.


I -rethorically- don't pay for not being able to play a game because of some ******** game mechanic whose only purpose is to favor being a jerk.


There are plenty of video games out there, many of them MMOs, which cater to a more pve centric game style.

Don't be ashamed to admit that Eve Online is not for you.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-03-29 16:30:43 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
I -rethorically- don't pay for not being able to play a game because of some ******** game mechanic whose only purpose is to favor being a jerk.


so go outside and shoot them!

Being at war doesn't stop you from playing the game, unless you LET it stop you. It's an important part of the game.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the rocket propulsion test chamber.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#17 - 2012-03-29 16:32:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ban Bindy
That part of the war dec is not changed. There was never a limit on how long a war could be extended.

A small corp will be smart to join an alliance under the new system.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#18 - 2012-03-29 16:33:50 UTC
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Starcaller Dredg
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-03-29 16:37:17 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


I -rethorically- don't pay for not being able to play a game because of some ******** game mechanic whose only purpose is to favor being a jerk.



The idea of this is that you would shoot them back. This isn't minecraft and it isn't warcraft. EVE is a high risk/reward game. You WILL lose ships, and so will everyone else.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-03-29 16:41:12 UTC
I kind of don't agree on this one. In war you don't declare war on someone and then ask "Is that ok?". You declare war and start killing for as long as you can or feel like.

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