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An explanation in simple terms of what happened

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Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-03-29 13:44:06 UTC
In the US and Iceland, verbal harassment of an individual is illegal. Consequently, it is also against CCP's company policy to allow customers to harass eachother, as they are the owner of the media through which this harassment is being conducted, and also liable in the even that a party presses charges.

Blowing up internet spaceships is not harassment.
Can flipping is not harassment.

You can't go in front of a judge and say "he can flipped me aboobooboo".

Directing a large group of people to goad a person into suicide is illegal. If Wis committed suicide after Mittani's comment in the alliance panel, there would be a huge (real) media frenzy and Mittani would be sitting in trial a year from now trying not to end up in prison, and this sort of publicity would undo years of work against anti-video-game-violence advocates. He's LUCKY he merely got a 30 day ban and was removed from CSM (as he would have been had he not resigned to save face) and his loyal minions should really consider what could have happened before they complain about this trivial slap on the wrist.

I'm not going to dredge through Icelandic law, but you can be certain this is the truth, posts referencing it have been made before and I've read it myself. You can look it up rather than bitching to me if you don't believe it. It's also completely irrelevant whether or not you feel society should coddle adult men or not. It's CCP's ass on the line.

As for the lost votes, tough luck. You players didn't lose your votes because Mittani made a verbal misslip like saying the N-Word by accident. He is a player with a long standing track record of sociopathic tendencies, and you voted for him knowing this. In fact, many times him and his predecessor have made it public that their intention is to grief EVE players and ruin their game experience, which is also against the EULA. He merely took it a step too far by crossing the boundaries into real life verbal harassment. Complain to the people who voted for Nixon if you think you should get a re-vote just because you made a poor choice. Next time, exercise better judgement.

Aranakas CEO of Green Anarchy Green vs Green

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#2 - 2012-03-29 13:45:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
...as if this deserves it's own thread. how Ego-driven. Get in an existing thread like the rest of us pubbies.

Contributing nothing new anyway, but I guess we should be glad you got it off your chest.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-03-29 13:46:34 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
...as if this deserves it's own thread. how Ego-driven. Get in an existing thread like the rest of us pubbies.


Hell, why not, this way people will see it because many don't seem to get it.

Aranakas CEO of Green Anarchy Green vs Green

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#4 - 2012-03-29 13:47:36 UTC
Everybody gets it in their own way.

Neither side is going to change anyone's mind.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-03-29 13:50:15 UTC
Well said OP.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821

Temulkar Blaine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-03-29 13:50:31 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
In the US and Iceland, verbal harassment of an individual is illegal. Consequently, it is also against CCP's company policy to allow customers to harass eachother, as they are the owner of the media through which this harassment is being conducted, and also liable in the even that a party presses charges.

Blowing up internet spaceships is not harassment.
Can flipping is not harassment.

You can't go in front of a judge and say "he can flipped me aboobooboo".

Directing a large group of people to goad a person into suicide is illegal. If Wis committed suicide after Mittani's comment in the alliance panel, there would be a huge (real) media frenzy and Mittani would be sitting in trial a year from now trying not to end up in prison, and this sort of publicity would undo years of work against anti-video-game-violence advocates. He's LUCKY he merely got a 30 day ban and was removed from CSM (as he would have been had he not resigned to save face) and his loyal minions should really consider what could have happened before they complain about this trivial slap on the wrist.

I'm not going to dredge through Icelandic law, but you can be certain this is the truth, posts referencing it have been made before and I've read it myself. You can look it up rather than bitching to me if you don't believe it. It's also completely irrelevant whether or not you feel society should coddle adult men or not. It's CCP's ass on the line.

As for the lost votes, tough luck. You players didn't lose your votes because Mittani made a verbal misslip like saying the N-Word by accident. He is a player with a long standing track record of sociopathic tendencies, and you voted for him knowing this. In fact, many times him and his predecessor have made it public that their intention is to grief EVE players and ruin their game experience, which is also against the EULA. He merely took it a step too far by crossing the boundaries into real life verbal harassment. Complain to the people who voted for Nixon if you think you should get a re-vote just because you made a poor choice. Next time, exercise better judgement.



QFT
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#7 - 2012-03-29 13:51:55 UTC
Aranakas wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
...as if this deserves it's own thread. how Ego-driven. Get in an existing thread like the rest of us pubbies.


Hell, why not, this way people will see it because many don't seem to get it.




Goons are just mad they lost CSM representation. They now want a reelection, but it's not going to happen, their candidate %$(#ed up. At least mittens was man enough to publicly apologize. The rest of GSF should man up and follow his example and go with some grace instead of making the forums a **** storm. The terrible posters are making everyone in GSF look like a whiny teenger.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-03-29 14:22:38 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Well said OP.


Ditto
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-03-29 14:32:59 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
Aranakas wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
...as if this deserves it's own thread. how Ego-driven. Get in an existing thread like the rest of us pubbies.


Hell, why not, this way people will see it because many don't seem to get it.




Goons are just mad they lost CSM representation. They now want a reelection, but it's not going to happen, their candidate %$(#ed up. At least mittens was man enough to publicly apologize. The rest of GSF should man up and follow his example and go with some grace instead of making the forums a **** storm. The terrible posters are making everyone in GSF look like a whiny teenger.



You miss the recording where he is telling them to keep trolling the forums.

He will say im sorry, while at the same time giving his swarms of pubbie goons to crap up the game for everyone.

He didnt learn anything. He throws a hissyfit and blames CCP and everyone else in the end.

Real mature.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **

CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2012-03-29 14:38:25 UTC
Please do not create multiple threads about the same topic.

Thread locked.

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