Player Features and Ideas Discussion

We need something like a u-boat in eve: a slow, fragile, invisible ship that can deal a lot of damage while being undetected for a short while. this would be the best solution to counter immobile blobs (gatecamps).

I was thinking along the lines of:

* slow base speed
* terrybad base sensor resolution
* extremely fragile
* ability to use cloak
* cloak only runs for a certain amount of time, then cooldown
* ability to fire when cloaked
* large number of weapon slots
* rof penalty when uncloaked

so, when the ship is uncloaked ("surfaced"), it's not much of a threat - it's slow, has ROF penalty etc.
when cloaked (submerged), it becomes a killer, but it has to sneak up on his enemies, since the cloak slows it down to not more than a few dozend m/s. it can do decent damage to cruiser and frigate sized hulls (taking out the tacklers at a gatecamp)
However, it needs to hurry up, since it is forced to uncloak after a certain period of time and turns into a glass peashooter.
The cooldown period should be not too short to prevent these things from being used as gatecampers themselves.

In 1v1 PVP, this ship woud be no threat, since you can easily outrun it or even decloak it.

In mixed fleets, it could be a overpowered damage dealer together with some tacklers - but only as long as the cloak runs + it has bad sensors and takes long time to switch targets + while roaming around and cooling down the cloak it's pretty much useless - so I think it won't be OP too much.

it would be also possible to restrict the weapons to just rockets/missiles/bombs, so that - given some skill - the thing can be spotted and decloaked if you follow the missile trails. heck, the same thing happened to the uboats in WW2 as their torpedo trails were visible, too.

I think destroyer hulls would be perfect for this.
* take astandard destroyer hull
* make it slower
* lower sensor resolution
* less HP
* very low base cap regen (cooldown effect for cloak)
* very high energy consumption increase for cloak (cloak sucks cap dry)
* MAYBE: cloak can only be activated at 90% cap
* ROF penalty only when uncloaked
* add ability to fire when cloaked

A "wolfpack" of 2 or 3 of these things could lead to very interesting, tactical fights especially against stationary blobs (convois ). You need skill though - you can't just fly in formation and F1-F7, you need to attack from different vectors and coordinate the attack to prevent all ships from being spotted at once.


Okay, wall of text ends here.
Flame on.

We have a whole fleet of fragile to not so fragile ships that can pounce you undetected out with no warning.

Al my stealthbombers have U-boat names.

When in a decent covops fleet you can harass and sneak around with curses/pilgrims/bombers/cov ops battleships and even cloaked transport to carry more bombs like there is no tommorow, spread out, reform, scout and kill.

Getting yet another ship to do the same is quite overkill.

More crying/moaning is just the point of this thing, and it's exactly what we need. Solo travelers and bears gets ganked, it's old news. The blob, on the other hand, haven't its share of whinning. We must bring the butthurt to those who have it not.

why is it that only gallente militia comes up with these brilliant ideas

It's called a stealth bomber shooting bombs.

OP's initial idea describes a stealth bomber.

OP's later ideas are just ******* stupid. NO ship should be able to target cloaked, much less shoot cloaked.