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Sleepers and Wormholes - Undiscovered Game Mechanics?
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Sunviking
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-09-25 18:47:50 UTC
Hi,

There is a popular thread in the EVE Fiction forum regarding Sleeper artifacts. information and knowledge. If I find the thread I will post the link here. In this thread, CCP Dropbear states that CCP are watching the developments of the Sleeper fact-finding exercise with interest.

Does this mean that there are as-yet undiscovered Game Mechanics within Wormhole Space that the player-base has not yet discovered?

I am not asking for specific information from CCP, just a yes or no answer. Can I have a response from CCP please? Are there things out there that we can do in Wormhole Space that we have not yet discovered how to do?

Sun
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-09-25 19:03:02 UTC
i think this just means ccp expects to expand wh stuff soon or later, but like FW this will happen never.tm
Raid'En
#3 - 2011-09-25 19:15:37 UTC
form what i remember it was about the disposition and fonctions of sleepers sites, and the energy they are collecting.
from what i know no one ever find a way to activiate them, and i dunno if it's possible.
Mirima Thurander
#4 - 2011-09-25 19:26:41 UTC
You know the trick where you show your dog the ball they want the ball so you act like you throw the ball but don't then hide it so they keep looking for something that's not really there?


That's what CCP has done with the sleepers.


Its there your just not looking hard enough, IS A LIE, its not there it might be at some point but right now yea there's nothing out there because the way these guys have picked apart WHs and if they haven't found it yet its not there.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-09-25 19:32:42 UTC
CCP is into nerfing w-space not expanding or improving it. It's one of the reasons we're going to lose the minuscule amounts of ABC we have and that we can get out compared to null. The other is that by nerfing us not only does it limit competition for nulls RMT operations, but it also makes null more attractive to bleed off our inhabitants, many of whom left null to escape their RMT overlords. It looks like the RMT overlords' reach is mightly far.

Don't ban me, bro!
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#6 - 2011-09-25 21:55:57 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
CCP is into nerfing w-space not expanding or improving it. It's one of the reasons we're going to lose the minuscule amounts of ABC we have and that we can get out compared to null. The other is that by nerfing us not only does it limit competition for nulls RMT operations, but it also makes null more attractive to bleed off our inhabitants, many of whom left null to escape their RMT overlords. It looks like the RMT overlords' reach is mightly far.




No,

THE CSM and 0.0 people want to nerf wormholes, not CCP.


IIRC in the old forums CCP stated that only 25% of all the high end minerals come from wh space. So there is no real reason to nerf it.

If anything they will only change roid sizes.


oh and there are a few class 2 wh's still unsettled in there i found. But hey have no high sec static exits.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
mkint
#7 - 2011-09-25 22:10:15 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
RMT overlords.



THE CSM and 0.0 people want to nerf wormholes, not CCP.


EXACTLY.

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Drifnir
Zealots of Bob
#8 - 2011-09-25 22:30:08 UTC
Back on the old forums, Dropbear stated that there are currently no in-game mechanics to move the Sleeper storyline forward. So all the inventive and imaginative stuff people have been getting up (self-destructing pods, ECM'ing everything etc etc) to wouldn't do anything. It's just the players who have to come up with a valid theory...or just a lucky guess of what they've got planned....not sure what it'll take to get things moving.

There's a brilliant thread over in EVE fiction: Linky

Wormholes are the single best feature in Eve, would love to see CCP iterate on it (like they promised after Apocrypha...but that's another kettle of fish entirely.)

Have a nice day.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-09-26 03:22:53 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
CCP is into nerfing w-space not expanding or improving it. It's one of the reasons we're going to lose the minuscule amounts of ABC we have and that we can get out compared to null. The other is that by nerfing us not only does it limit competition for nulls RMT operations, but it also makes null more attractive to bleed off our inhabitants, many of whom left null to escape their RMT overlords. It looks like the RMT overlords' reach is mightly far.




No,

THE CSM and 0.0 people want to nerf wormholes, not CCP.


IIRC in the old forums CCP stated that only 25% of all the high end minerals come from wh space. So there is no real reason to nerf it.

If anything they will only change roid sizes.


oh and there are a few class 2 wh's still unsettled in there i found. But hey have no high sec static exits.


Only if you don't see CCP deriving financial gains from RMT. The way null has been with its ridiculous moon goo profits and resources, the pervasiveness of botting, the T20 incident, exploits allowed to be used until made public, sorry, I'm just not that naive to believe they don't. And so, yes, CCP and the CSM want to nerf w-space.

Don't ban me, bro!