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a year of trolling a csm lacking any democratic mandate

oh boy

Oh, go make a TV show for Christ's sake.

No one is saying anything about alts, but as someone from an alliance with something to gain out of all this, your people's opinions should be taken with a boulder of salt.

They don't actually care about the truth.

They just want to push their tyranny.

The only person the goons have any reason to be mad at is the chairman formerly known as...not CCP or anyone else.

What happened was his fault and his responsibility.

They had their say.

Their say was expelled.

Why do they deserve to speak twice?

Mittani resigning from the chair is his own business. CCP chose to remove him from the seat that 10,058 players elected him to, for events which occurred during his CSM 6 tenure, before the CSM 7 results were announced, without offering anything to the constituency, Goonfleet and otherwise, which voted for him. Banning him for 30 days for this also goes above the actions taken against other EULA violations at fanjets, and it speaks of undemocratic reactions to media and marketing pressure. Obviously, if CCP doesn't want to do anything about this, they don't have to. But, by not doing anything, it casts the whole of CSM 7 under an air of questionable legitimacy, as anyone elected to it has far less votes than the leader removed from it.

This isn't to say that the remaining CSM 7 candidates haven't won their seats fair and square. To the posters in this thread suggesting that I think ill of Hans Jaegerblitzen or Elise Randolph (maybe Seleene?), I actually quite like these candidates, and commend them on their results in the polls. Furthermore, with the notable exception of Issler, those members of CSM 7 that have spoken about this decision have called out CCP's actions. Given their interest in serving the player base as representatives, I see no reason for them not to rally behind this stance - they would all easily win again in roughly the same order.

This has little to nothing to do with my personal views, which are irrelevant here. I actually found Mittani's presentation to be in poor taste, and I'm glad he gave his apology. More importantly, I'm glad logs have shown that The Wis is doing quite well these days. I actually like pretty much all of the members of CSM 7, and even those I don't necessarily like, I congratulate on winning their position, fair and square.

At any rate, obviously I can do nothing more than present CCP with this basic idea of how to keep a mandate with CSM 7. If they want to ignore this, that's their business. Posting here either way does little.

It's the consistency I like... The way it melts into the mouth...

So you can't read, didn't read, or don't care what I typed. Fine. At least you're posting on your main.

This has nothing to do with the chair. Stepping down from the chair doesn't disenfranchise voters. Removing the seat disenfranchises voters.

Granted, I imagine you're posting because you're presuming this is some sort of internet anger from me, implying some sort of victory from what you presume to be your own faction. That, honestly, is why I post. Because if that's what you think, it makes my own terrible posting look that much better by comparison.

No. This is what alternates are for. The votes were counted. The members elected. The criminals were thrown out. They don't run elections a second time when the politician turns out to be a criminal.

Deal with it.