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A call for all CSM reps to step down.
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Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-03-29 01:02:43 UTC
Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice.
Ceptia Cyna
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-03-29 01:05:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ceptia Cyna
Please cry me a river. You set your money on the wrong horse... what a pitty.

You wanted a sandbox, you got the best of all. Real Life.

http://h9.abload.de/img/looselipsmittani370ye4.png
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-03-29 01:06:30 UTC
Ceptia Cyna wrote:
Please cry me a river. You set your money on the wrong horse... what a pitty.

You wanted a sandbox, you got the best of all. Real Life.

http://h11.abload.de/img/looselipsmittani2cpkr6.png

Thank you for your support in these trying times, fair Ceptia. Don't worry, my crusade for your voice will go unabated unless I am silenced as well.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-03-29 01:07:58 UTC
should have voted for -a-
Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#5 - 2012-03-29 01:09:09 UTC
Nice Alt.

Perhaps something in a tissue?

.
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
#6 - 2012-03-29 01:09:47 UTC
OP - sorry dude,
The Mittani resigned of his own volition.
He stated he would and followed through.

That's how democracy works, if a winning candidate (for any reason) can not serve, there is no revote.

You should take pride in the fact that The Mittani outlined his 3 steps and followed through.
The only thing CCP did was issue a 30 day ban.

Nothing clever at this time.
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-03-29 01:13:11 UTC
Nick Bison wrote:
OP - sorry dude,
The Mittani resigned of his own volition.
He stated he would and followed through.

That's how democracy works, if a winning candidate (for any reason) can not serve, there is no revote.

You should take pride in the fact that The Mittani outlined his 3 steps and followed through.
The only thing CCP did was issue a 30 day ban.

If you actually read anything he said anywhere, he only resigned the chairmanship. CCP twisted his wording in the dev blog. Glad to see you did your homework though.
Jack Parr
Kzinti Hegemony
#8 - 2012-03-29 01:13:21 UTC
Aiden Andraste wrote:
Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice.


i literally have no more room to store tears. i've got all this ice to mine and put on my itty and take it to jita to sell. you folks keep distracting me with all these delicious threads crying how the world has wronged you. maybe you could start up a wow account. i understand your glorious leader has a 30 day vacation, take him with you. they have cool swords and sparkly vampires there.

next time vote for a real candidate like darius and you can sit back and listen to your barry manilow cassette tapes all day long secure in the knowledge that you voted for a candidate who will serve his entire term.

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average goon."      - The Mittani
Ceptia Cyna
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-03-29 01:16:14 UTC
Aiden Andraste wrote:
If you actually read anything he said anywhere, he only resigned the chairmanship. CCP twisted his wording in the dev blog. Glad to see you did your homework though.


No. They BANHAMMERED him and kicked him out of CSM.

Welcome to real life spacekiddy! Now go back and play EVE!
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#10 - 2012-03-29 01:56:36 UTC
I absolutely agree that the entire CSM should step down.

Not because of poor little Alex getting what he deserved. But because the CSM failed:

* to act in a timely manner
* to recognize that his removal from the CSM was absolutely necessary
* for offering support to The Mittani to remain on the CSM after he took the weak step of resigning only from the chairmanship and not the entire CSM
* for failing to be 100% behind his removal from the first minute you saw the panel

Every single one of you WEAK CSMs should resign immediately and let the entire team of CSM alternates to step into your shoes... immediately.

Of course, you won't, because you couldn't figure out "the right thing to do" even if someone were to post it under your nose for you.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-03-29 01:58:54 UTC
Aiden Andraste wrote:
Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice.



Translation: I dont like that democracy is working as intended.


He dun goofed. He has to take responsibility for that. End of story.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#12 - 2012-03-29 01:59:40 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
I absolutely agree that the entire CSM should step down.

Not because of poor little Alex getting what he deserved. But because the CSM failed:

* to act in a timely manner
* to recognize that his removal from the CSM was absolutely necessary
* for offering support to The Mittani to remain on the CSM after he took the weak step of resigning only from the chairmanship and not the entire CSM
* for failing to be 100% behind his removal from the first minute you saw the panel

Every single one of you WEAK CSMs should resign immediately and let the entire team of CSM alternates to step into your shoes... immediately.

Of course, you won't, because you couldn't figure out "the right thing to do" even if someone were to post it under your nose for you.


Uhm, not all the CSM!

Issler
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#13 - 2012-03-29 02:02:26 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
I absolutely agree that the entire CSM should step down.

Not because of poor little Alex getting what he deserved. But because the CSM failed:

* to act in a timely manner
* to recognize that his removal from the CSM was absolutely necessary
* for offering support to The Mittani to remain on the CSM after he took the weak step of resigning only from the chairmanship and not the entire CSM
* for failing to be 100% behind his removal from the first minute you saw the panel

Every single one of you WEAK CSMs should resign immediately and let the entire team of CSM alternates to step into your shoes... immediately.

Of course, you won't, because you couldn't figure out "the right thing to do" even if someone were to post it under your nose for you.


Uhm, not all the CSM!

Issler


Oops Sorry. Your voice was so drowned out I almost forgot.

EXCEPT ISSLER (obviously) who was a rare exception

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Mikhail Illiad
Fevered Imaginings
#14 - 2012-03-29 02:09:03 UTC
Your vote was cast and it was accepted and counted as part of the whole process. The fact that there was an incident involving a CSM delegate that has forced CCP to remove that member from office bears no meaning on the voting process. None of the other CSM members were involved in said incident, and yet you call for the vote to be redone? Face it your man screwed up, the quicker you guys learn to accept that fact the quicker we can all get on with the serious business of internet spaceships!

There once was an interesting signature here... It has long since disapeared. 
Allandi
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-03-29 02:19:44 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
I absolutely agree that the entire CSM should step down.

Not because of poor little Alex getting what he deserved. But because the CSM failed:

* to act in a timely manner
* to recognize that his removal from the CSM was absolutely necessary
* for offering support to The Mittani to remain on the CSM after he took the weak step of resigning only from the chairmanship and not the entire CSM
* for failing to be 100% behind his removal from the first minute you saw the panel

Every single one of you WEAK CSMs should resign immediately and let the entire team of CSM alternates to step into your shoes... immediately.

Of course, you won't, because you couldn't figure out "the right thing to do" even if someone were to post it under your nose for you.


Spot on - with damning, publicly available evidence, the need to 'discuss' it amongst the CSM is a show of weakness. The fact that you don't stand up immediately against such outrageously hateful comments towards another human being shows everyone the type of people you are.

Even people in positions of real political power don't sit around for days discussing something so damning.
Bibosikus
Air
#16 - 2012-03-29 02:36:38 UTC
Allandi wrote:


Even people in positions of real political power don't sit around for days discussing something so damning.



Of course they frigging do. Everywhere. ALL THE TIME. Where the hell do you live?
Besides, you're contradicting yourself. The CSM is hardly a real political power, so by default they WILL take an age to "discuss something so damning"...

@OP - I would have liked Mittens to stay on the CSM but hey, no amount of protestation is going to change things now. We can be quite sure CCP took legal advice before they made their decision, so any amount of claiming shennanigans are going to hit a brick wall.

It's done and dusted.

Now get your sh*t together and go burn Jita. Most of Eve is planning to come watch Twisted

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Lenrir Andven
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-03-29 02:50:49 UTC
Jack Parr wrote:
Aiden Andraste wrote:
Until such a time as the 10000 players who were silenced be allowed to revote. Stand down in solidarity against CCP using the CSM as a marketing/PR tool instead of what it was originally intended as: The players' voice.


i literally have no more room to store tears. i've got all this ice to mine and put on my itty and take it to jita to sell. you folks keep distracting me with all these delicious threads crying how the world has wronged you. maybe you could start up a wow account. i understand your glorious leader has a 30 day vacation, take him with you. they have cool swords and sparkly vampires there.

next time vote for a real candidate like darius and you can sit back and listen to your barry manilow cassette tapes all day long secure in the knowledge that you voted for a candidate who will serve his entire term.


Welp, hope you use Jita well for the 30 days you have. Jita is going to be 'out of bounds' after that.
Allandi
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-03-29 03:01:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Allandi
Bibosikus wrote:
Allandi wrote:


Even people in positions of real political power don't sit around for days discussing something so damning.



Of course they frigging do. Everywhere. ALL THE TIME. Where the hell do you live?
Besides, you're contradicting yourself. The CSM is hardly a real political power, so by default they WILL take an age to "discuss something so damning"...

@OP - I would have liked Mittens to stay on the CSM but hey, no amount of protestation is going to change things now. We can be quite sure CCP took legal advice before they made their decision, so any amount of claiming shennanigans are going to hit a brick wall.

It's done and dusted.

Now get your sh*t together and go burn Jita. Most of Eve is planning to come watch Twisted



"Where the hell do you live?"
I live in a country where if someone asked to further an agenda to see someone commit suicide, every political position in the country would instantly turn against them. There would be no discussion.

I have to ask though, where the hell do YOU live that people have to think about this?
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-03-29 03:09:36 UTC
To all the bad posters bumping my thread: Thank you.

I knew obviously that D3 (rabid goon hater) and Isler (first on the emo kneejerk bandwagon) wouldn't step down in support of having a new CSM election to allow the 10000 to revote.

My plea is to those CSM members who have more than two brain cells to rub together. Particularly Seleene, Two Step and Vile Rat. What are your responses?
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#20 - 2012-03-29 03:09:58 UTC
Lenrir Andven wrote:

Welp, hope you use Jita well for the 30 days you have. Jita is going to be 'out of bounds' after that.


I fear this because you will have the element of surprise.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
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