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Do we want the new graphics upgrade?

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Aranakas
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#321 - 2012-03-28 22:36:15 UTC
Let progress march on.

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Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#322 - 2012-03-29 20:54:37 UTC
One other thing.

Would this upgrade give us the "UIs" we see in the cinema's like Butterfly. Specifically where it's showing the Rifter (at least the Rifter hull type). Or in Dominion where it shows the Sov of the system....


Seriously, can we PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE get those overlays as our UIs.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#323 - 2012-04-13 13:00:35 UTC
I agree...if the UI had a more 3D popup and overlay feel it would be a hell of a lot cooler. It would be nice to have multiple overlays that I can drop and bring back up with the click of a button too. Put what windows I want on each overlay and just bring up the whole overlay with all the windows and drop them when not needed. Chats on one overlay, scanning tools on another, targeting and tactical on another and so on.

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Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#324 - 2012-04-13 13:15:06 UTC
If it happened I would explore EVE forever

Ferox #1
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#325 - 2012-04-13 13:59:41 UTC
I think one of the cooler things I saw from Fanfest was that they want to represent battles on the planets when they happen. The more details like that the better. Immersion is key.

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Matthew Talvanen
Doomheim
#326 - 2012-04-13 14:21:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Matthew Talvanen
+1 on another graphics revamp. Shinier is always better :D
Andrew W-K
Doomheim
#327 - 2012-04-13 14:45:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrew W-K
I am for this. From what I have read and the posts here it seems that we will be able to play (for the next couple of years) on our ****** laptops for social fun and trolling while being able to enjoy new eye candy on our gaming rigs.

Seems win win to me.


And just to note...

When I play on my laptop it has a crummy Intel HD3000 - which is a dx10 GPU. Suprisingly it runs EVE at a mid setting very well. The Intel 4000 on the new Intel CPU is dx11 and I bet will play the game on high, so this game really doesnt require much.

My desktop has a GTX 570 - I only play eve these days so I'd like to see it work Bear
namron 7
Doomheim
#328 - 2012-04-13 15:30:14 UTC
This

Thanks for the help
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#329 - 2012-04-13 15:37:43 UTC
Microsoft just announced Windows XP was no longer going to be supported starting April 2014 so all you people still hanging on need to man up and update your systems.
ASuperVillain
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#330 - 2012-04-13 15:57:10 UTC
JamDunc wrote:
CCP just announced the potential for a new graphics upgrade.

The new upgrade would take 5 man years. For comparison the Trinity upgrade took 50 man years.

Thoughts?

CURRENT RESULTS

For: 31
Neutral: 1
Against: 1


Hell no...

give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit.

besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete
which is to say MORE OF THE SAME

-ASV
T-B0NE
Doomheim
#331 - 2012-04-13 16:41:54 UTC
ASuperVillain wrote:
Hell no...

give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit.

besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete
which is to say MORE OF THE SAME

-ASV
I agree, I don't wanna invest so much time and money into this game just to someday be forced out by inferior graphics resulting from an unwillingness to go out and spend money AGAIN on ANOTHER graphics card, and suitable power supply, which is another couple hundred on top of that. These high end cards are expensive energy hogs which sucks for someone on a budget who just wants to sit back and enjoy their favorite game. I mean come on 500watts to run a graphics card, my refrigerator uses less than that! I just don't get why programmers can't write more efficient code instead of ever more resource intensive code (oh wait that's right CCP is in bed with Nvidia and Nividia sells graphics cards, it all makes sense now).

EvE is forever, too bad it's support for your graphics card might not be.

“Death and destruction are necessary to the health of the world, and therefore as natural, and lovable, as birth and life. Only priests and born cowards moan and weep over dying. Brave men face it with approving nonchalance." - Ragnar Redbeard
Alrione
Black Lagoon Inc.
#332 - 2012-04-13 16:56:48 UTC
+1 to DO WANT

All those megahurz on my computer need something to do, otherwise I heard hackers can steal them Shocked
T-B0NE
Doomheim
#333 - 2012-04-13 16:59:49 UTC
Alrione wrote:
+1 to DO WANT

All those megahurz on my computer need something to do, otherwise I heard hackers can steal them Shocked
Don't worry all those megahertz will be considered under powered soon enough.

“Death and destruction are necessary to the health of the world, and therefore as natural, and lovable, as birth and life. Only priests and born cowards moan and weep over dying. Brave men face it with approving nonchalance." - Ragnar Redbeard
Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#334 - 2012-04-13 17:00:47 UTC
T-B0NE wrote:
ASuperVillain wrote:
Hell no...

give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit.

besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete
which is to say MORE OF THE SAME

-ASV
I agree, I don't wanna invest so much time and money into this game just to someday be forced out by inferior graphics resulting from an unwillingness to go out and spend money AGAIN on ANOTHER graphics card, and suitable power supply, which is another couple hundred on top of that. These high end cards are expensive energy hogs which sucks for someone on a budget who just wants to sit back and enjoy their favorite game. I mean come on 500watts to run a graphics card, my refrigerator uses less than that! I just don't get why programmers can't write more efficient code instead of ever more resource intensive code (oh wait that's right CCP is in bed with Nvidia and Nividia sells graphics cards, it all makes sense now).

EvE is forever, too bad it's support for your graphics card might not be.


The integrated GPU built into the up-coming $150 cpus are just as powerful as $250 graphics cards from only 3 years ago.

GPUs are getting CHEAPER and use LESS power.

GPUs are doubling their performance every 12-16months, while reducing power and becoming cheaper. In 2-3 years, expect a $400 computer using the integrated GPU to run the proposed graphics changes just fine.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#335 - 2012-04-13 17:03:43 UTC
ASuperVillain wrote:
JamDunc wrote:
CCP just announced the potential for a new graphics upgrade.

The new upgrade would take 5 man years. For comparison the Trinity upgrade took 50 man years.

Thoughts?

CURRENT RESULTS

For: 31
Neutral: 1
Against: 1


Hell no...

give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit.

besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete
which is to say MORE OF THE SAME

-ASV

Games die because they cannot keep up with newer games in graphical quality. Despite what people like to say, game play isn't everything. Last time I went looking for a new game to play I didn't go looking for the old games with crappy graphics. I went looking for the new games with the nice new graphics.

And by the way...you do have an opt-out. It's called biomassing. You don't even have to log into the pretty-fi game to do it either. Lucky you!

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#336 - 2012-04-13 17:03:52 UTC
T-B0NE wrote:
ASuperVillain wrote:
Hell no...

give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit.

besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete
which is to say MORE OF THE SAME

-ASV
I agree, I don't wanna invest so much time and money into this game just to someday be forced out by inferior graphics resulting from an unwillingness to go out and spend money AGAIN on ANOTHER graphics card, and suitable power supply, which is another couple hundred on top of that. These high end cards are expensive energy hogs which sucks for someone on a budget who just wants to sit back and enjoy their favorite game. I mean come on 500watts to run a graphics card, my refrigerator uses less than that! I just don't get why programmers can't write more efficient code instead of ever more resource intensive code (oh wait that's right CCP is in bed with Nvidia and Nividia sells graphics cards, it all makes sense now).

EvE is forever, too bad it's support for your graphics card might not be.


I'm sorry that computing power continues to march on while you are stuck in the dark age.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#337 - 2012-04-13 17:06:02 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
ASuperVillain wrote:
JamDunc wrote:
CCP just announced the potential for a new graphics upgrade.

The new upgrade would take 5 man years. For comparison the Trinity upgrade took 50 man years.

Thoughts?

CURRENT RESULTS

For: 31
Neutral: 1
Against: 1


Hell no...

give us an "opt out" for your pretty-fi bullshit.

besides two words come to mind... buggy, incomplete
which is to say MORE OF THE SAME

-ASV

Games die because they cannot keep up with newer games in graphical quality. Despite what people like to say, game play isn't everything. Last time I went looking for a new game to play I didn't go looking for the old games with crappy graphics. I went looking for the new games with the nice new graphics.

And by the way...you do have an opt-out. It's called biomassing. You don't even have to log into the pretty-fi game to do it either. Lucky you!


Lets not go overboard here. CCP has said that the opt-out for the graphics would be like what they did when Trinity 2.0 came out. These people will have a few years to update their systems to accommodate the new graphics. I for one look forward to seeing pretty spaceships.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Velicitia
XS Tech
#338 - 2012-04-13 17:06:20 UTC
T-B0NE wrote:

EvE is forever, too bad it's support for your graphics card might not be.



I too want to play the newest computer games on my Amiga. Roll

Prior to getting my new laptop a few weeks ago, I was playing on a crap laptop running a Mobile Intel card, which I was forced to use because my ancient desktop (last rebuilt just before Trinity) didn't have the SSE2 instruction set. Settings across the board were "low" or "off", and the game played FINE (unless one wanted to check out the CQ or make a new toon ... meh).

Trinity to now (~5 years), there haven't been any major graphics overhauls to EVE (yes, V3 and a few other things ... but not on the scale that Trinity was), and I even DOWNGRADED my graphics card in the interim. So, if CCP is deciding that "OK, it's been 5 years, let's see what other improvements we can make to the graphics" I'm all for it.

Sure, this means people with computers that are barely at min spec now might get screwed ... but such is the nature of PC gaming.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
T-B0NE
Doomheim
#339 - 2012-04-13 17:06:53 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
I'm sorry that computing power continues to march on while you are stuck in the dark age.
I'm sorry you think graphics cards that require as much energy as some large household appliances is justified in the name of "progress".

“Death and destruction are necessary to the health of the world, and therefore as natural, and lovable, as birth and life. Only priests and born cowards moan and weep over dying. Brave men face it with approving nonchalance." - Ragnar Redbeard
Ekserevnitis
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#340 - 2012-04-13 17:10:22 UTC
+1 especialy if this will make the ships to use their actual shape for bumping