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Who are the best low sec pirate corps and alliances?

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Mr Morita
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#61 - 2012-03-27 08:25:41 UTC
Espen Egak wrote:
Kmelx wrote:
That thread about anti piracy is a massive troll.

This one probably is too, but for the lulz I'll give you a straight answer.

It all depends what sort of piracy your looking for, if your looking for solo/small gang stuff then in my experience the Tuskers are pretty good.

http://evewho.com/corp/The+Tuskers

Also Gunpoint Diplomacy are OK.

http://evewho.com/corp/Gunpoint+Diplomacy




The only way to get into gunpoint is to basicly kill everyone of them and teabag them in tha face ..

No seriously you only get invited to Gunpoint so you have to be FABULOUS~~~.


Fixed for greater truth.
Kmelx
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2012-03-27 08:41:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Kmelx
Too tired to post. Meant to correct a typo I'd posted earlier and reposted the entire previous post again in quotation marks.
Vasavia
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-03-27 15:23:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Vasavia
Espen Egak wrote:

The only way to get into gunpoint is to basicly kill everyone of them and teabag them in tha face ..

No seriously you only get invited to Gunpoint so you have to be spectacular.

Actually, just want to point out for sake of serius poasting, that's not entirely accurate.

While it's true RANSM is invite only atm, that has more to do with keeping tight control over member #'s. We do look for certain things in potential members though - but it basically boils down to be a chill brosef, and you'll likely get in.
And here is my proof to back up my claims:
CraftCroc
CoLe Blackblood
the united
#64 - 2012-03-27 16:20:55 UTC
Kmelx wrote:
Kane Rizzel wrote:
Also, I now feel dirty for defending The United.


So you should - my point remains they are crap.

Most people join low sec pirate corps for the pew. Negative Ten are a lowsec pirate alliance that gate camp one particular gate and prefer to run and hide rather than pew, you know they are lame and so do I. By no possible measure can ganking noobs and the idiots that decide to travel that particular shortcut through lowsec then running away from anyone who brings a fight qualify them as the "best" lowsec pirate corp or alliance Roll

On the other comments you made earlier, sure most COA fleets or gangs run with some ECM, usually a solo falcon or blackbird for a 20 man fleet, but even we, the terrible blobbers that we are would be ashamed to run a 20 man fleet with four rooks.



Bring your falcons to Rancer, Mz Nubbins.

I will blue ball you all night
Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
You've got RED on you
#65 - 2012-03-27 18:39:23 UTC
Kmelx wrote:
Kane Rizzel wrote:
Also, I now feel dirty for defending The United.


So you should - my point remains they are crap.

Most people join low sec pirate corps for the pew. Negative Ten are a lowsec pirate alliance that gate camp one particular gate and prefer to run and hide rather than pew, you know they are lame and so do I. By no possible measure can ganking noobs and the idiots that decide to travel that particular shortcut through lowsec then running away from anyone who brings a fight qualify them as the "best" lowsec pirate corp or alliance Roll

On the other comments you made earlier, sure most COA fleets or gangs run with some ECM, usually a solo falcon or blackbird for a 20 man fleet, but even we, the terrible blobbers that we are would be ashamed to run a 20 man fleet with four rooks.



Who are you to judge what makes a good Pirate? If you want to just PvP go fight R&K, PODLA, Club Bear, Genos etc.
But you don't want a fight, do you? None of the so called COA do, they want easy ganks which The United don't give you and which tbh, makes you that which you seem to so despise.
Then when you get a fight, having EM FC's, you make up killmails to make your side look good but forget to post all your lossmails.

Piracy is different for a lot of people in EVE, there is no one true way to be a Pirate, after all, we are free to do as we want, but saying that Piracy must result in a lossmail, well, get real mate, I make more ISK from ransoming than from a killmail of a noob who got lost on the way to Jita/Rens/wherever the **** else, or just wanted to see what this lowsec lark was all about.

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GeneralMartok
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#66 - 2012-03-27 22:09:00 UTC  |  Edited by: GeneralMartok
Kane Rizzel wrote:
Kmelx wrote:
Kane Rizzel wrote:
Also, I now feel dirty for defending The United.


So you should - my point remains they are crap.

Most people join low sec pirate corps for the pew. Negative Ten are a lowsec pirate alliance that gate camp one particular gate and prefer to run and hide rather than pew, you know they are lame and so do I. By no possible measure can ganking noobs and the idiots that decide to travel that particular shortcut through lowsec then running away from anyone who brings a fight qualify them as the "best" lowsec pirate corp or alliance Roll

On the other comments you made earlier, sure most COA fleets or gangs run with some ECM, usually a solo falcon or blackbird for a 20 man fleet, but even we, the terrible blobbers that we are would be ashamed to run a 20 man fleet with four rooks.



Who are you to judge what makes a good Pirate? If you want to just PvP go fight R&K, PODLA, Club Bear, Genos etc.
But you don't want a fight, do you? None of the so called COA do, they want easy ganks which The United don't give you and which tbh, makes you that which you seem to so despise.
Then when you get a fight, having EM FC's, you make up killmails to make your side look good but forget to post all your lossmails.

Piracy is different for a lot of people in EVE, there is no one true way to be a Pirate, after all, we are free to do as we want, but saying that Piracy must result in a lossmail, well, get real mate, I make more ISK from ransoming than from a killmail of a noob who got lost on the way to Jita/Rens/wherever the **** else, or just wanted to see what this lowsec lark was all about.




basically this.

we try not to give easy ganks to terrible blobs, its not rocket science, they are just mad they can't get more easy ganks.

we sit on 1 gate all day, taking sentry fire, in the open, nothing to hide, and we know which groups are terrible bait and which ones aren't.

So basically this:

We honor all "1 v 1"s which extends to any size fleet you want to field as a challenge against us.
So if you want to bring it, we'll keep it as equal as possible.

nut up or shut up, avoiding terrible bait is a sign of pvp prowess.

public channel: the united, I'm sure someone in there can get us setup for a fight.

- Martok, United Directorate

PS - we have 30 falcons on standby for people wanting to dishonor a premade fight.
SneakyBadger
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2012-03-28 00:45:39 UTC
Confirming RANSM will take anyone. I just finished a 3 month infiltration of this "notorious" corp on behalf of certain Peacekeeping(anti-pirate) corps. My findings are these:

1. Many of the members are clearly repressed homosexuals. The killboard in fact has gay porn as the background.
2. All members must be able to dual box 2 falcons.
3. See #2.
4. Getting back to the gay thing there is a disturbing fascination with hairy buttz.
5. But really, I have been propositioned many times late at night for unspeakable activities.
6. DP made me give him 2 Bil isk to join (was reimbursed by Altaen obviously).
7. I was then forced to sing several songs to him in a private lobby while he fell asleep.
8. Several of the members are in fact hard miners who use "PVP" as a cover while secretly "munching ore".
9. One of the members is Mittani alt.
10. Its Evel.
Daniel L'Siata
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#68 - 2012-03-28 03:47:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel L'Siata
We're not pirates! Just very...not picky.

Oh, and between killboard comments, forum rage and EN 24 smack, we are apparently pets of - Muppets, RnK, PL, NC., Raiden, the Amarr Militia and Shadow Cartel. We are also RnK, Shadow Cartel and Rote Kappelle wannabes and have all of EVE blue (Not counting alt corps, we have four blues.).

We are also - Terrible and like to drop Carriers on you, cowards, bad PvPers who make up for it with ISK and traitors.

Personally, we just think we're really good at tears.

If you wish to join, fly to Vestouve and try and kill someone, you'll get noticed.

Also, Gunpoint are awesome, gate camping is not real piracy, Snuff are also awesome, Tuskers also great. Hatchery is hilarious.
Kmelx
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2012-03-28 08:34:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Kmelx
Kane Rizzel wrote:
Who are you to judge what makes a good Pirate? If you want to just PvP go fight R&K, PODLA, Club Bear, Genos etc.


I think the best way to ascertain what makes a good pirate is to fight them. I'll refer you back to my original post - which details some of the best pirate corps and alliances around. I'm not seeing masses of people disagree with my comments, or suggest loads of other pirate groups - Perhaps this is because having fought lots of pirates I know who are good and who aren't - Negative Ten are not a good pirate alliance, it seems you and they are the only people who don't realise this.

COA is based in minnie lowsec, R&K, PODLA and Shadow Cartel aren't. Despite that I have fought R&K & Shadow Cartel in COA or COA allied fleets, most of the time we got our arse handed to us as they dropped overwhelming amounts of capitals or turned out in massively superior fleet comps, T3s supported by lots of logi or multiple carriers, pirate faction battleship fleets etc. I've probably fought PODLA as well, I just can't recall any specific instances.

I don't despise Negative Ten, I just think they are lame, I'll take their offer for some fights though and have some COA fleets drop by soon. Just to save us all some time perhaps Negative Ten would like to confirm in advance whether they'll run and hide in station or whether they'll be hiding in their POS.
Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
You've got RED on you
#70 - 2012-03-28 09:08:27 UTC
The COA and The Fendahlian Collective aren't exactly a PvP powerhouse so you judging PvP prowess is a joke of the highest order, maybe you should just shut up and go back to making up killmails and get your joke coalition to post all your lossmails.
I'm not pretending The United are any good, I just believe you are so bad that your opinion means nothing.

By the way, as Anti Pirates, how do you justify flying with Pirates?

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Liiza Valora
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2012-03-28 09:24:06 UTC
Kmelx wrote:
Kane Rizzel wrote:
Who are you to judge what makes a good Pirate? If you want to just PvP go fight R&K, PODLA, Club Bear, Genos etc.


I think the best way to ascertain what makes a good pirate is to fight them. I'll refer you back to my original post - which details some of the best pirate corps and alliances around. I'm not seeing masses of people disagree with my comments, or suggest loads of other pirate groups - Perhaps this is because having fought lots of pirates I know who are good and who aren't - Negative Ten are not a good pirate alliance, it seems you and they are the only people who don't realise this.

COA is based in minnie lowsec, R&K, PODLA and Shadow Cartel aren't. Despite that I have fought R&K & Shadow Cartel in COA or COA allied fleets, most of the time we got our arse handed to us as they dropped overwhelming amounts of capitals or turned out in massively superior fleet comps, T3s supported by lots of logi or multiple carriers, pirate faction battleship fleets etc. I've probably fought PODLA as well, I just can't recall any specific instances.

I don't despise Negative Ten, I just think they are lame, I'll take their offer for some fights though and have some COA fleets drop by soon. Just to save us all some time perhaps Negative Ten would like to confirm in advance whether they'll run and hide in station or whether they'll be hiding in their POS.



The anger and frustration is strong within this noob. Can you show me on this doll where THE UNITED touched you? You sound really butt hurt, even the mere mention of the name THE UNITED has brought your tears to the surface and they are so sweet. Are you gonna cry some more in this thread about how THE UNITED doesn't do what you want it to do when you roll your fleet near our location? Please tell me how your dilemma is my problem. By the way who are you? I've never heard of you in game or even in these forums. Are you somebody important? Do you even matter in eve? Because from where i'm sitting your just another SCRUB-LORD that i've harvested tears from not only in game but right here in these public forums for all to see. Your so Terribad that I'm actually bored with how much you suck at eve. Go wipe your nose, walk up the stairs from your mom's basement and get some sun you pale little kid. While your at it go give your mom a hug and hold on tight to her apron string. I love that just the name alone, "THE UNITED" gets your goat. Your too easy!


Here are some important things to remember:

God created the Heavens, he created the earth! He created THE UNITED! Then he created a set of 50-inch pythons, brother!
From now on you should apply the same process to the process itself.
I can tell you tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them.
The piracy we do in and around Rancer is really about peace.
You should know your onions before you speak.
Your what we like to call a TERRIBLE, chuckle nuts. By the way i'm not even winded after saying all this, you big FATTY.
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#72 - 2012-03-28 11:10:32 UTC
I hear RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE is a big player in lowsex

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#73 - 2012-03-28 11:14:01 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
hawkeye al > lady spank- i must say you are the most honorable hydra person i have ever met

Therefore I am the best ever solo anti-pirate of honour and valour who stands up and fights against the tyranny of low sec heresy and you will know your retribution is fulfilled when I cleanse your soul with my antimatter charges.


Hard to argue the hawkeye, clearly he has to be best at spotting lowly little fwigatz running around like bunnies on an open field.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

Kaeda Maxwell
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#74 - 2012-03-28 11:27:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaeda Maxwell
Opinions vary wildly on what defines 'good'.

Recognizing bad bait and then not going for it is a skill for example and prolly the tactically correct choice. But quite often r1fta gangs will recognize bait and then tackle it anyway not cause we're ignorant, but what the hell, why not?

Beloved CraftyCroc of "Hairy Buttes Inc." alone in space? A trap? Pretty much always. Sometimes I still go for him, will I loose my ship? Prolly. Do I care? Hardly.

Because I didn't log in to EVE not to have a fight, and if I only ever engaged stuff against which I'd have a high chance of being victorious I'd for one get far less fights (and learn and gather experience a lot slower too) and furthermore epic killmails would never happen either. You do need to like actually engage and punch above your weight class for *epic* mails to even have a chance of happening after all.

And then some people call us terrible because 'lulz you went for the Maller yur so bad' or 'zomg your corps efficiency is 60% you suck' or 'you guys suck you don'r even fly bc's yur alwayz in frigs'.

Well so what? Sandbox is sandy our goal in game might not be never flying into a trap eyes wide shut, maybe it's not a >90% killboard and maybe it's not flying in 15-25 man bc/t2/whatever gang.
We might be terrible when measured against your standards or goals, but keep in mind that our standards or goals may be nothing like yours and we might be having tons of fun flying with our own.
Rivur'Tam
the united
#75 - 2012-03-28 11:46:41 UTC
fgft Athonille wrote:
the untied and snuff box stand head and shoulders above everybody else. then they stand on a massive pile of win, ontop of a powerful greek god of war, who is also standing on thousands of corpses from all the bads

nobody here compares



i approve of this post

also why are eve fourms so full of emo idiots with no rl and a hardon for correct spelling grammer where is the love the friendship the brotherhood of pilots toghter, the comming toghter of nations and races to unite

btw why do i have 2 lieks i gave myself one who gave me the other

[b]Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire

^^ my sig was awesome that naugty spitfire stole it for himself true story

United Recruitment Director.[/b]

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#76 - 2012-03-28 11:51:50 UTC
Rivur'Tam wrote:
fgft Athonille wrote:
the untied and snuff box stand head and shoulders above everybody else. then they stand on a massive pile of win, ontop of a powerful greek god of war, who is also standing on thousands of corpses from all the bads

nobody here compares



i approve of this post

also why are eve fourms so full of emo idiots with no rl and a hardon for correct spelling grammer where is the love the friendship the brotherhood of pilots toghter, the comming toghter of nations and races to unite

btw why do i have 2 lieks i gave myself one who gave me the other


If you wanted more love, friendship and brotherhood of pilots together, maybe you shouldn't call them faggots in your signature.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

Mr Morita
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#77 - 2012-03-28 11:53:34 UTC
Rivur'Tam wrote:
fgft Athonille wrote:
the untied and snuff box stand head and shoulders above everybody else. then they stand on a massive pile of win, ontop of a powerful greek god of war, who is also standing on thousands of corpses from all the bads

nobody here compares



i approve of this post

also why are eve fourms so full of emo idiots with no rl and a hardon for correct spelling grammer where is the love the friendship the brotherhood of pilots toghter, the comming toghter of nations and races to unite

btw why do i have 2 lieks i gave myself one who gave me the other


lawl, just noticed. The Untied.
Rivur'Tam
the united
#78 - 2012-03-28 12:00:30 UTC
Misanth wrote:
Rivur'Tam wrote:
fgft Athonille wrote:
the untied and snuff box stand head and shoulders above everybody else. then they stand on a massive pile of win, ontop of a powerful greek god of war, who is also standing on thousands of corpses from all the bads

nobody here compares



i approve of this post

also why are eve fourms so full of emo idiots with no rl and a hardon for correct spelling grammer where is the love the friendship the brotherhood of pilots toghter, the comming toghter of nations and races to unite

btw why do i have 2 lieks i gave myself one who gave me the other


If you wanted more love, friendship and brotherhood of pilots together, maybe you shouldn't call them faggots in your signature.



i didn't say i wanted more i just asked where it was and i will change my sig when i recive 10 more likes

Mr Morita wrote:


lawl, just noticed. The Untied.


read my sig unless i have recived 10 moar likes

[b]Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire

^^ my sig was awesome that naugty spitfire stole it for himself true story

United Recruitment Director.[/b]

Kmelx
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-03-28 12:06:10 UTC
Kane Rizzel wrote:
The COA and The Fendahlian Collective aren't exactly a PvP powerhouse so you judging PvP prowess is a joke of the highest order, maybe you should just shut up and go back to making up killmails and get your joke coalition to post all your lossmails.
I'm not pretending The United are any good, I just believe you are so bad that your opinion means nothing.

By the way, as Anti Pirates, how do you justify flying with Pirates?


Your right, my judgement is so impaired from all the time I've spent making up kill mails that I have no clue who the best low sec pirate corps and alliances are, its why everyone is disagreeing with my initial comments....oh wait...

That's the thing though Kane I'm saying they are bad, your saying that their actions in running away from fights are "commendable" Roll

COA does have blues with some minnie militia corps that have guys who are -5 or below because we fly in minnie lowsec and have a pro militia stance, we have friends and allies in the militia, because they are our friends and allies we make some exceptions.

Liiza Valora wrote:
The anger and frustration is strong within this noob.


Firstly learn to smack.

Secondly. Your so right. All the tears and rage from the times that you've never killed me have tipped me over the edge, I've lost all sense of perspective given that on every occasion that I can recollect where COA has fought Negative Ten you've either a) run away or b) lost

Is it three or four carriers Negative Ten have been forced to self destruct in the last 12 months to COA? I think its three but I'm not entirely sure.

PS. We still get lots of lulz from the time your 20 man BS fleet with a carrier in support ran away from our 25 man mostly cruiser fleet in Hagilur, docked up, sent out a non pirate toon from your alliance to scan our fits, then stabbed your armour battleships and then ran back to Miro to hide in your POS - It's what all the best low sec pirate alliances do.



Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
You've got RED on you
#80 - 2012-03-28 12:16:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Kane Rizzel
Kmelx wrote:

That's the thing though Kane I'm saying they are bad, your saying that their actions in running away from fights are "commendable" Roll



Never said they were commendable, just that their definition of 'Pirate' is spot on, again, read the title of the ******* thread, it didn't ask for 'best lowsec pvp corp or alliance' You don't fit into that category either. Dial up your reading comprehension.

You're attacking an alliance for doing exactly what you do when a force that outguns you turns up, turn tail and run, get off your high horse, your hypocrisy makes the joke that is the COA even more ridiculous.

You really do have a bug up your ass about The United, which clearly shows they're doing something right P

Edit: Let's look at some numbers shall we

The United have a 48:1 success ratio with over 8 trillion ISK damage
Applied Creations has a 2:1 success ratio with 206 billion ISK damage

I know of one man corps with better ratios and damage done than Applied Creations, which again, makes your opinion on PvP null and void

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