Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So, I was just sitting here a moment ago when I had a clever idea for some alliance income. Now, this is a very rough sketch and is by no means perfect, is limited to sov alliances, and doesn't have to be the sole source of income. But, what if a sov alliance could set up a loyalty point store in their outposts?

Basically, when helping take sov systems or on roams, you earn alliance loyalty points for each kill you get or structure you destroy. Just doing day to day activities that benefit your alliance can get you some LP with your alliance. Then, when docked at an outpost, you can exchange the LP and some isk for delicious rewards of some kind. I feel as if this would be a great way for individual pilots to directly fund their alliances and be a symbiotic relationship with their pilots.


I'm not sure what type of rewards could be given. It'd be in game items/ships. It'd be up to each individual alliance to set the rewards and costs. Costs could be any ratio of alliance LP and isk. In the outposts, there would be a special hold where the holding corp can just dump in x amount of y modules. The store would then add these modules and then if there were something new, the alliance leader would be asked for a cost. All this kinda works out since sov alliances and corps charge a discount for stuff produced by members.



I find FAQs help refine my idea and give clarity. I'm a fan of writing them.
Q&A


Q. Why Loyalty Points
A. Well, I felt that, especially since moon mining is going to get nerfed a bit, that alliances do need a good way to make some isk. This is meant as supplemental to taxes and bills

Q. Why sov alliances and not mining alliances
A. Well sov alliances have outposts which don't have the LP button in them. It'd be easier to just set it up with sov to get it rolling. Perhaps, one day we can see a tabbed set up for lp stores, so you can click between the NPC lp store and the alliance LP store in NPC stations. But, it'd only be in places alliances call home.

Q. What about exchanges rates
A. well I guess if an alliance is apart of a coalition, they could set exchange rates between alliance LP. And the more blue your alliance is to the alliance in question, the better the rate, with 1:1 being the best.

Q. What about supply and demand
A. Unlike NPC LP stores, there isn't an unlimited amount of supplies to give out. So as the limited number of modules diminishes,the isk and point cost can go up

Q. What's to keep my alliance from just hiking up the prices to extort some extra cash out of me
A. Nothing really. Although, any good alliance should know that you don't want to exploit your members too much. Happy workers are the most productive and will help you to your goals.

There were plans, complete with mock-up graphics, for something called "Storefronts" back in 2008 ..

Google it, lots of info on what was planned/wanted/envisioned/etc. in everything from threads, devblogs, press releases and what not .. why it was scrapped is anyone's guess.

They really do need something along the lines of corp or alliance markets, the LP store could be an added bonus for the sov holding alliances in null.

There is some potential there.

I think you're confusing couple things:

- moon goo nerf will impact alliance level income
- lp payout would be a cost to the alliance as a whole and only a benefit to individual members (so your solution to offset alliance level income is to nerf it again)
- Admittedly I haven't participated in any alliance for a long while now, but when I was still playing the sov games, the main alliance to single player payouts were ship replacements, which generally do what you want to achieve - award players for achieving alliance level goal.
- In some alliances that I've been in there were some other benefits, like discounted skill books or ships that the alliance wanted you to use.
- Most alliances that I know of require you to earn your own isk, so alliance paying you to do something is kind of hard to believe (unless you're a director of a major corp)

Your kind of idea could work if there was some new functionality defined that would require alliance to perform some tasks and could report back their completion.
Those task should be simple enough for anyone to do and shouldn't pose a security threat (for example POS maintenance is one of such tasks right now, but you can't have anyone maintaining your POSes as then a spy could take them offline or sabotage them in some other way).