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bubble again?

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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#1 - 2013-06-23 21:58:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
create a module so we can counter and escape that thing

this is not balanced, just for people who have no skill at all

every form of attack needs to have a counter messure

edit: frigate only module with restrictions, just to bring more life to nullsec and to encourage new players to go there
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2013-06-23 22:05:12 UTC
Interdiction Nullifier subsystem for T3s.

Or smartbombs if you're scrapping with a light dictor.

Also, what would be the counter to your bubble-counter module if it was for every ship, or would you just fir them to tanked DSTs and be utterly uncatchable?
Eija-Riitta Veitonen
Ixian Machines
#3 - 2013-06-24 00:02:43 UTC
There is such a module, in fact, there's three such modules: Afterburners, Microwarp Drives and Microjump Drives. Use them, love them.
Manfred Hideous
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#4 - 2013-06-24 00:24:13 UTC
Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:
There is such a module, in fact, there's three such modules: Afterburners, Microwarp Drives and Microjump Drives. Use them, love them.


And cloaks. Align, MWD, Cloak. It's not foolproof but it works pretty well if you have a nimble ship.
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#5 - 2013-06-24 00:43:19 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
create a module so we can counter and excape that thing

this is not balanced, just for people who have no skill at all

every form of attack needs to have a counter messure


but it has its called high sec

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#6 - 2013-06-24 03:49:42 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Interdiction Nullifier subsystem for T3s.

Or smartbombs if you're scrapping with a light dictor.

Also, what would be the counter to your bubble-counter module if it was for every ship, or would you just fir them to tanked DSTs and be utterly uncatchable?


T3 is too expensive at the moment, how would that smartbomb work against it? please explain...
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#7 - 2013-06-24 03:52:19 UTC
Manfred Hideous wrote:
Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:
There is such a module, in fact, there's three such modules: Afterburners, Microwarp Drives and Microjump Drives. Use them, love them.


And cloaks. Align, MWD, Cloak. It's not foolproof but it works pretty well if you have a nimble ship.


ok i try that again...
Mr Doctor
Sex Machineguns
#8 - 2013-06-24 04:02:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Doctor
Smartbombs destroy the probe which is causing the bubble if its from a light dictor.

Also good Dictor pilots are some of the higher skilled players I've come across. Dictor pilots that actually have no skill are hilarious to see..... just not to be in fleet with. Stop crying and claiming things require no skill just because youre bitter about them.
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#9 - 2013-06-24 05:39:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Mr Doctor wrote:
Smartbombs destroy the probe which is causing the bubble if its from a light dictor.

Also good Dictor pilots are some of the higher skilled players I've come across. Dictor pilots that actually have no skill are hilarious to see..... just not to be in fleet with. Stop crying and claiming things require no skill just because youre bitter about them.


yea you are right you need the skill of waiting, thats whats needed a lot in gatecamps... they are the masters of nose picking and thumbs twiddling
Mr Doctor
Sex Machineguns
#10 - 2013-06-24 05:53:18 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Mr Doctor wrote:
Smartbombs destroy the probe which is causing the bubble if its from a light dictor.

Also good Dictor pilots are some of the higher skilled players I've come across. Dictor pilots that actually have no skill are hilarious to see..... just not to be in fleet with. Stop crying and claiming things require no skill just because youre bitter about them.


yea you are right you need the skill of waiting, thats whats needed a lot in gatecamps... they are the masters of nose picking and thumbs twiddling

You're an idiot, enjoy the new pod death animation.
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#11 - 2013-06-24 07:41:48 UTC
Mr Doctor wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Mr Doctor wrote:
Smartbombs destroy the probe which is causing the bubble if its from a light dictor.

Also good Dictor pilots are some of the higher skilled players I've come across. Dictor pilots that actually have no skill are hilarious to see..... just not to be in fleet with. Stop crying and claiming things require no skill just because youre bitter about them.


yea you are right you need the skill of waiting, thats whats needed a lot in gatecamps... they are the masters of nose picking and thumbs twiddling

You're an idiot, enjoy the new pod death animation.


who's bitter now? must have hurt your feelings there... Roll
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#12 - 2013-06-24 10:05:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Eija-Riitta Veitonen wrote:
There is such a module, in fact, there's three such modules: Afterburners, Microwarp Drives and Microjump Drives. Use them, love them.


if you jump through a stargate and land in a bubble this does not help much, i still think a module is missing to counter the bubbles, the T3 cruiser are the only ships, in my opinion not enough

sure I will try the tricks mentioned but, if CCP wants to bring more players to nullsec they need to make it somehow possible to have a counter messure for it

this mechanic at the moment is only for the gleeful people, a very shameful act like a group of men throwing a net around a dog and beating it
Lai HasCake
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#13 - 2013-06-24 10:19:18 UTC
The simplest counter to a bubble is to bring friends. Null sec is not meant to be a safe place or attractive for solo players.
If you want to go for solo kills you should consider working towards a stealth bomber their cloaks + mwd make them difficult to catch even with bubbles.

The answer is not to whine and call for nerfs about mechanics you do not understand.
Lai HasCake
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#14 - 2013-06-24 10:20:33 UTC
Oh and even cloaky nullified max warpstabbed t3 cruisers get caught at gate camps.
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#15 - 2013-06-24 10:23:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Lai HasCake wrote:
The simplest counter to a bubble is to bring friends. Null sec is not meant to be a safe place or attractive for solo players.
If you want to go for solo kills you should consider working towards a stealth bomber their cloaks + mwd make them difficult to catch even with bubbles.

The answer is not to whine and call for nerfs about mechanics you do not understand.


people like you are the only one whining because if bubble counter messures get added to the game you are not able to make easy kills anymore... and for a honorable fight you are lacking the balls
Nagarythe Tinurandir
Einheit X-6
Ushra'Khan
#16 - 2013-06-24 11:03:30 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Lai HasCake wrote:
...

people like you are the only one whining because if bubble counter messures get added to the game you are not able to make easy kills anymore... and for a honorable fight you are lacking the balls


bubbles are part of the 0.0 space-scape and setting it apart from low- and high sec. it makes travelling alone more dangerous if your are either alone and or are travelling with a big ship.
they are needed for preventing capitals and supers from jumping away. how do you think one prevents a mommy or a titan from just jumping out whenever why wish to, when they just fit a module preventing a bubble from dragging them down?

there are more than enough ships fast enough to avoid getting cought in a gate camp with bubbles, up to battlecruiser-size.
or reapproach gate. it isn't rocket science...
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#17 - 2013-06-24 11:21:49 UTC
Nagarythe Tinurandir wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Lai HasCake wrote:
...

people like you are the only one whining because if bubble counter messures get added to the game you are not able to make easy kills anymore... and for a honorable fight you are lacking the balls


bubbles are part of the 0.0 space-scape and setting it apart from low- and high sec. it makes travelling alone more dangerous if your are either alone and or are travelling with a big ship.
they are needed for preventing capitals and supers from jumping away. how do you think one prevents a mommy or a titan from just jumping out whenever why wish to, when they just fit a module preventing a bubble from dragging them down?

there are more than enough ships fast enough to avoid getting cought in a gate camp with bubbles, up to battlecruiser-size.
or reapproach gate. it isn't rocket science...


you can counter a scrambler you can counter a warp disrubtor, there are modules for that, it just feels like there is something missing for the bubbles, i heared the tricks to escape the bubble, like cloak mwd warp, however they are just invented by the players because the bubble is not balanced, its a fancy way to get away with luck...

bubble vs. counter module = balanced
bubble vs. fancy clicking = broken game mechanic Cool
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2013-06-24 11:34:56 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Interdiction Nullifier subsystem for T3s.

Or smartbombs if you're scrapping with a light dictor.

Also, what would be the counter to your bubble-counter module if it was for every ship, or would you just fir them to tanked DSTs and be utterly uncatchable?


T3 is too expensive at the moment, how would that smartbomb work against it? please explain...



T3s are what, 5-600 mil for a full t2/light faction fit? Hardly that much.

Smarbombs pop light dictor probes, thus removing the bubble.

Also, what would be the counter to your bubble-counter module if it was for every ship, or would you just fit them to tanked DSTs and be utterly uncatchable?
Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#19 - 2013-06-24 13:15:22 UTC
Ellendras Silver wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
create a module so we can counter and excape that thing

this is not balanced, just for people who have no skill at all

every form of attack needs to have a counter messure


but it has its called high sec


You forgot lowsec as well.

Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.

Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#20 - 2013-06-24 13:34:55 UTC
Hopelesshobo wrote:
Ellendras Silver wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
create a module so we can counter and excape that thing

this is not balanced, just for people who have no skill at all

every form of attack needs to have a counter messure


but it has its called high sec


You forgot lowsec as well.


i figgured low sec was also too hard for him so i skipped that but yes you are right

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]

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