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Bumping at the gate is like spamming convo?

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Jerych0
Taurus Core
#1 - 2012-11-28 16:21:03 UTC

If i spamming convo to another player people can report me to GM that warming me (because you doing a bad action)

And about people that bumping you on gate like for 10-20minutes on hisec when you are in freighter is no the same thing???

CCP can tell us about it? I think it is the same thing because you can't doing anything like people that spamming convo to you.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-11-28 16:54:50 UTC
Jerych0 wrote:

If i spamming convo to another player people can report me to GM that warming me (because you doing a bad action)

And about people that bumping you on gate like for 10-20minutes on hisec when you are in freighter is no the same thing???

CCP can tell us about it? I think it is the same thing because you can't doing anything like people that spamming convo to you.

omg...
it seems you have not been bumped by now...

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Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#3 - 2012-11-28 17:14:02 UTC
No they two are not the same.

Convo spamming requires multiple parties involved. Your client receives so many requests that it chokes, freezes, and must he restarted. You cannot activate modules, open other windows, you are locked out until restarting your client.

Bumping does none of this. It requires 2 people. Your client still functions. If your shop has modules that can be activated, you can.

These two are not the same.
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#4 - 2012-11-28 17:15:21 UTC
This must be you

Amazing how this freighter pilot said the same thing, you butthurt much my fenrir?

It is an exploit to bump someone for no reason but with intent to engage, nothing can be done.

Next time dont be so stupid and logoff rather than sit there and take it.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2012-11-28 17:36:46 UTC
Bumping is not an exploit, its CCP approved!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Jerych0
Taurus Core
#6 - 2012-11-28 17:37:53 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
No they two are not the same.

Convo spamming requires multiple parties involved. Your client receives so many requests that it chokes, freezes, and must he restarted. You cannot activate modules, open other windows, you are locked out until restarting your client.

Bumping does none of this. It requires 2 people. Your client still functions. If your shop has modules that can be activated, you can.

These two are not the same.


i think it is same thing because you can't doing anything you cant moving, you can only just talking with people. But if i want talking with people i don't play to eve... If you bump a people for 1 minutes can happen, but if you bumping people for 20minutes are not the same thing.
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#7 - 2012-11-28 18:52:55 UTC
Dear Customer,
I, as a Yarrbear pilot, am very unhappy of the situation.
It seems that we didn't bump you enough, and so the loot wasn't that good.
Next time, we will do our best to bump you for at least one hour.
Thanks.



SHAKE IT
SHAKE IT
BUMP IT
SHAKE IT
...
LOOT IT.

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !

Nayl Mkoll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-11-28 19:05:31 UTC
Jerych0 wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
No they two are not the same.

Convo spamming requires multiple parties involved. Your client receives so many requests that it chokes, freezes, and must he restarted. You cannot activate modules, open other windows, you are locked out until restarting your client.

Bumping does none of this. It requires 2 people. Your client still functions. If your shop has modules that can be activated, you can.

These two are not the same.


i think it is same thing because you can't doing anything you cant moving, you can only just talking with people. But if i want talking with people i don't play to eve... If you bump a people for 1 minutes can happen, but if you bumping people for 20minutes are not the same thing.


convo spamming is an negative abuse in the game because its an exploit of the UI. If you send a convo to some one they cant click anything BEHIND the convo request untill you accept or deny the request. bumping leaves you full control over all the features in the game, you just cant get away because you choose to fly something slow and cumbersome for whatever reason you chose to fly it and you dont have the ability to get away from a bumper just like you wouldnt be able to out run tackle or any other evasion. but if you were close enough to something like a gate or a station nothing would stop you from jumping / docking.... if your in docking range trying to dock and some one is chat spamming you, you physically cannot click the dock button due to the UI layer from the chat request. yes you can mouse over to it but clicking anything wont register untill you take care of the chat request....

Again to sum up.. bumping = game mechanic and your own personal choice if you choose to fly something faster/more agile than ur bumper... he cant bump you...

chat spam= abuse of user interface mechanics.
Berendas
EVE University
Ivy League
#9 - 2012-11-28 19:09:40 UTC
0/10
Azran Zala
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-11-29 13:03:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Azran Zala
In Eve, inconveniencing you is no more a crime than killing you.
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#11 - 2012-11-29 13:53:52 UTC
Spamming convo requests exploits an issue with your client, shutting down your client and preventing you from interacting with the game.

Bumping you exploits your ship, preventing you from controlling your ship as you would like. They are not the same.

CCP has confirmed that bumping is not an exploit, or harassment, or a bannable offence.
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#12 - 2012-11-29 14:27:40 UTC
HELP

I'M TACKLED IN THE BELT

THEY ARE USING A WARP DISRUPTOR AND 2 WEBS

I'M JAMMED BY 2 FALCONS

H4LP H4LP

I CAN'T DO ANYTHING BUT TALKING WITH PEOPLE

SHOULD I MAKE A PETITION ? I'M SURE IT'S AN EXPLOIT AND CCP SHOULD SAVE ME AND BANNED THEM

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !

Ahvram
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-11-29 14:42:29 UTC
Dont you love how all the Gankers and Pirates come out when one of there obvious exploits is threatend. So basically its ok to be able to disable a ship without aggression. Basically bumping to a large ship = being warp scrammed. Amazing that its a Valid tactic as the person being bumped can do nothing to combat it.


Its cool we know the gankers and pirates of EVE can only kill frieghters by bumping. Everyone knows the only real issue with bumping is frieghters and hi sec ganker gate camps. To many Goons involved with CCP at the Meta and design level. As this one one of there favorite past times it will never change. For people who cant adapt to win exploiting broken mechanics is typical of all MMO games.


Shylari Avada
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-11-29 15:29:48 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Next time dont be so stupid and logoff rather than sit there and take it.


And of all people, I figured you would understand aggression timers.
De'Veldrin
Adversity.
Hisec Miners
#15 - 2012-11-29 16:48:40 UTC
Bumping, leave it alone.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

Sigash
Boozy Mining And Salvage Inc
#16 - 2012-11-29 17:15:17 UTC
Van Kuzco
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-11-29 17:38:08 UTC


Hauling 5 bil...
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#18 - 2012-11-29 17:43:36 UTC
\ O /

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !

Sigash
Boozy Mining And Salvage Inc
#19 - 2012-11-29 17:53:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigash
800 lines of assorted shite, 800m of salvage and 4 plex
Van Kuzco
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-11-29 18:11:44 UTC
Sigash wrote:
800 lines of assorted shite, 800m of salvage and 4 plex


Holy I didn't even see the plex. 3 dropped as well!
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